what's up with the weird video effects? It makes it hard to watch.
The legitimate object of government, is to do for a community of people, whatever they need to have done, but can not do, at all, or can not, so well do, for themselves - in their separate, and individual capacities. -Abe
Also please watch Mike Lasley's video describing his detention and removal from the grounds of City Hall the same day as Jason Hurley, by men dressed in LAPD uniforms, Friday, 11/25/11. For the record, Mike's son is six years old. One of the officers had Mike's complete military record. Such records are not normally available to municipal police departments, leaving one with the impression that this operation was coordinated by the DHS which has overseen the destruction of encampments across the nation facilitated through conference calls with at least 19 city mayors, who are acting as proxies for the federal government in the suppression of the Movement.
I was told that a total of 12 people were taken from the Occupy LA encampment on Friday, all male and all of them vets. I cannot personally confirm this.
If this is true, I assume the authorities are trying to ensure that no vets are on site when the encampment is cleared, as the public is very sympathetic to vets. The two who were injured by police in Oakland did great PR damage to the OPD and mayor there.
I sincerely hope that other vets are informed of Friday's events and join Occupy LA during the removal.
Is this confirmed that vets are being removed? Do we know that they are being released? If it's true, it should be spread all over the news...Can I email your post to more people? Folks need to know!
This is insane if this is true. I haven't been able to find any info on this. Please update Lee if you hear anything.
The legitimate object of government, is to do for a community of people, whatever they need to have done, but can not do, at all, or can not, so well do, for themselves - in their separate, and individual capacities. -Abe
Everyone I have talked to on this has been a dead end. There has been no press coverage of this story yet because they are all committed to the narratives that they've been building up for the last two months. The occupiers have refused to help me on this because *THEY HAD ALREADY OSTRASIZED HURLEY.* The occupiers were more concerned with giving Villaraigosa their special statement than with confronting the mayor with the blatant evidence that he is sweeping people under the rug whenever the press shows up. The impression I got from the occupiers was that they were just as happy for Hurley to disappear as the police were because they saw him as a threat to their "consensus". It's Chinatown.
The timing and methods of the police actions give a strong suspicion of political motive behind the disappearance. This story should get out there BEFORE THE RAID so that it can be investigated while witnesses are still available. POLITICAL ABDUCTION people! It doesn't matter if it's for 2 hours or 2 years, abduction is abduction.
Selective enforcement of a just law is unjust, selective enforcement with political motive is a serious crime.
If you are one of the vets who was nabbed, find a member of the press and tell them what happened. City Hall park is the scene of multiple kidnappings, this should be investigated BEFORE THE RAID while the witnesses are still around.
...the cameraperson who was pushed during the Hurley arrest contacted him & has more footage of other arrests. I will give Mike (uglymod@aol.com) your number if he comes back on the chat.
I have tweeted some info re this to @OccupyMarines & @Occupy_Police. If you can to anything to help with this disturbing pattern of events pls do. Thx.
(Edited to add. It was later confirmed that the first vet referred to in the email below is named Chis Kim. The second vet, whose abduction is described in the last paragraph, was Mike Lasley. -t/d)
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His name is Chris, shorter height, Asian descent, black hair starting to dread. He was taken by the police during the crowd surge along 1st Street (corner of 1st and Main).
Does anyone have word of him? This seems to be happening very often lately. The military and ex-military folk among us are taken by cops, threatened, and told to leave.
Please tell me someone has seen him? I saw another guy (a marine) get taken by 2-3 cop cars when he was walking alone. A completely unprovoked, targeted abduction during the time Villaraigosa was speaking the day after Thanksgiving.
The guy who got shoved by cops--Does anyone know him? Did he get video? I am media looking to contact him and for witnesses ot the removal of vets. I have spoken with UglyMod already in person. I can be reached at lalisa.derrick93@gmail.com. My website in signature. Thanks.
and again, I have been unable to confirm the total number of persons removed from the camp or if they were all vets. I do not know Jason Hurley's status in that regard. It has been reliably reported that Jason Hurley was see at camp since his arrest.
Edited to add:
I emailed Mike Lasley's video to the ACLU and tweeted it to journalist Glenn Greenwald. If you can get any reports out elsewhere pls do as I think making it as public as possible is best. Please tell the vet at City Hall to watch out for each other.
This needs to be investigated and if true, all over the media.
The legitimate object of government, is to do for a community of people, whatever they need to have done, but can not do, at all, or can not, so well do, for themselves - in their separate, and individual capacities. -Abe
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Submitted by Mahayana on
what's up with the weird video effects? It makes it hard to watch.
The legitimate object of government, is to do for a community of people, whatever they need to have done, but can not do, at all, or can not, so well do, for themselves - in their separate, and individual capacities. -Abe
Much clearer copy of the video here:
Submitted by tovangar2 on
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWe-RnKzDEQ
Also please watch Mike Lasley's video describing his detention and removal from the grounds of City Hall the same day as Jason Hurley, by men dressed in LAPD uniforms, Friday, 11/25/11. For the record, Mike's son is six years old. One of the officers had Mike's complete military record. Such records are not normally available to municipal police departments, leaving one with the impression that this operation was coordinated by the DHS which has overseen the destruction of encampments across the nation facilitated through conference calls with at least 19 city mayors, who are acting as proxies for the federal government in the suppression of the Movement.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHSpYaiPmJw
I was told that a total of 12 people were taken from the Occupy LA encampment on Friday, all male and all of them vets. I cannot personally confirm this.
If this is true, I assume the authorities are trying to ensure that no vets are on site when the encampment is cleared, as the public is very sympathetic to vets. The two who were injured by police in Oakland did great PR damage to the OPD and mayor there.
I sincerely hope that other vets are informed of Friday's events and join Occupy LA during the removal.
Please read this: http://www.aclu.org/blog/national-security/senators-demand-military-lock-american-citizens-battlefield-they-define-being/
Is there anymore info about this?
Submitted by Lee on
Is this confirmed that vets are being removed? Do we know that they are being released? If it's true, it should be spread all over the news...Can I email your post to more people? Folks need to know!
Leone
This is insane if this is
Submitted by Mahayana on
This is insane if this is true. I haven't been able to find any info on this. Please update Lee if you hear anything.
The legitimate object of government, is to do for a community of people, whatever they need to have done, but can not do, at all, or can not, so well do, for themselves - in their separate, and individual capacities. -Abe
Get This Out There!
Submitted by leverkühn on
Everyone I have talked to on this has been a dead end. There has been no press coverage of this story yet because they are all committed to the narratives that they've been building up for the last two months. The occupiers have refused to help me on this because *THEY HAD ALREADY OSTRASIZED HURLEY.* The occupiers were more concerned with giving Villaraigosa their special statement than with confronting the mayor with the blatant evidence that he is sweeping people under the rug whenever the press shows up. The impression I got from the occupiers was that they were just as happy for Hurley to disappear as the police were because they saw him as a threat to their "consensus". It's Chinatown.
The timing and methods of the police actions give a strong suspicion of political motive behind the disappearance. This story should get out there BEFORE THE RAID so that it can be investigated while witnesses are still available. POLITICAL ABDUCTION people! It doesn't matter if it's for 2 hours or 2 years, abduction is abduction.
Selective enforcement of a just law is unjust, selective enforcement with political motive is a serious crime.
Lee & Mahayana,
Submitted by tovangar2 on
I do not have anymore info & still connot confirm the total removed on Friday or if they were all vets.
Mike, the man speaking in the second video, is a very reliable person. He is on livestream chat now. His username is uglymod.
http://www.livestream.com/owslosangeles
URGENT Request for any information on Black Friday abductions
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Please contact me ASAP if have any information, or are interested in helping me get more information, on these abductions.
Michael Lemmon
(323)-491-4055
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If you are one of the vets who was nabbed, find a member of the press and tell them what happened. City Hall park is the scene of multiple kidnappings, this should be investigated BEFORE THE RAID while the witnesses are still around.
Mike Lasley said on the Livestream chat that ...
Submitted by tovangar2 on
...the cameraperson who was pushed during the Hurley arrest contacted him & has more footage of other arrests. I will give Mike (uglymod@aol.com) your number if he comes back on the chat.
Hurley is NOT in jail, was not booked.
I noticed this email on the Listserve...
Submitted by tovangar2 on
I have tweeted some info re this to @OccupyMarines & @Occupy_Police. If you can to anything to help with this disturbing pattern of events pls do. Thx.
(Edited to add. It was later confirmed that the first vet referred to in the email below is named Chis Kim. The second vet, whose abduction is described in the last paragraph, was Mike Lasley. -t/d)Here's the email:
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Does anyone have word of him? This seems to be happening very often lately. The military and ex-military folk among us are taken by cops, threatened, and told to leave.
Please tell me someone has seen him? I saw another guy (a marine) get taken by 2-3 cop cars when he was walking alone. A completely unprovoked, targeted abduction during the time Villaraigosa was speaking the day after Thanksgiving.
Concerned,
Claire
Guy wiht iPad
Submitted by LalisaDerrick on
The guy who got shoved by cops--Does anyone know him? Did he get video? I am media looking to contact him and for witnesses ot the removal of vets. I have spoken with UglyMod already in person. I can be reached at lalisa.derrick93@gmail.com. My website in signature. Thanks.
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I do not know him...
Submitted by tovangar2 on
and again, I have been unable to confirm the total number of persons removed from the camp or if they were all vets. I do not know Jason Hurley's status in that regard. It has been reliably reported that Jason Hurley was see at camp since his arrest.
Edited to add:
I emailed Mike Lasley's video to the ACLU and tweeted it to journalist Glenn Greenwald. If you can get any reports out elsewhere pls do as I think making it as public as possible is best. Please tell the vet at City Hall to watch out for each other.
Update on unlawful arrests of veterans @ OLA
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http://occupylosangeles.org/?q=node/2640
This needs to be investigated and if true, all over the media.
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