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Occupy Los Angeles is a peaceful-nonviolent movement.  We are at a critical juncture in our occupation, when conflict with the police seems inevitable.  They have announced that they intend to remove us next week with 72 hours notice.  We have a great opportunity to demonstrate the best methods of non-violent resistance that we can muster.  For the next few days, I and many of us will be pledging our commitment to non-violence and peaceful resistance.  Many of us believe Occupy Los Angeles should resist police calmly and non-violently, and then reoccupy as necessary.

The voice of “Occupy Los Angeles”, “Occupy L.A., OLA” etc., is the General Assembly.  However, there are a lot of voices at Tent City.  As a movement we are peaceful, but as a bunch of broke hungry folks at city hall, peace is going to take work.  In spite of camp setbacks, we are confident that we can achieve victory over violence.

We have tried to remain as inclusive as possible.  Unfortunately, that is a double-edged sword.  Downtown Los Angeles has all sorts of people at various levels of mental health.  As it turns out, we have been good neighbors to plenty of people who aren't as dedicated to remaining peaceful as we are.  One member of my web team has been punched in the face, and another has been threatened constantly to the point she feels the need to chase people who are not in solidarity with the movement and who are flagrantly disregarding our community guidelines, which already are much more relaxed than New York's.

Meanwhile, our camp is toxic.  Since we don't have enough room or supplies to clean thoroughly, and since we have been drastically slow to occupy other locations (as we agreed to do in one of our earliest General Assemblies at Pershing Square), We have a severe mold epidemic on the underside of tents, and residents of the south lawn are having respiratory problems.  We have no sanitation except the portable toilets.  We have food shortages and a population who mistakenly thinks that Occupy Los Angeles exists simply to acquire donations and distribute them to needy people in D.T.L.A.  We have had fights broken up by the police.  We have violent, competitive people camping around the food and donation tents.  Our media tent is under constant threat as well, and our security tent has been turned into a dormitory.

This has been a successful experiment in social science.  We have determined that our current occupational model needs adjustment in order to work properly.

We have some things in our favor: we have had the largest occupation camp in the United States.  We have attracted a lot of support and even more attention, which has been our bane and our boon (corporate media has been ridiculing us from one side of its mouth and addressing our cause from the other side).  We have developed and are perfecting a process for direct participatory democracy.  We have protected first amendment rights for ourselves and for the rest of the country.  We have set precedents for creating a liberated space.  We have housed and fed hundreds of people with limited supplies and donations, and space.  We have brought together people from every social, economic, and ethnic background and have formed an intentional community (well, sort of intentional).  In the process, we have made life-long friends.

Circles of friends at Occupy L.A. have, to a greater or lesser extent, banded together into many self-proclaimed tribes, including a sovereign nation.  Many of the world's most peaceful, sustainable civilizations were nomadic and were organized in such a tribal fashion.  Occupy Los Angeles is well on its way to following the same model.  “Hunter-gatherer” is a malapropism; nomadic civilizations often tended natural landscapes to produce renewable food and energy sources, a technique we now know of as “food forestry”.  By following a similar model, Occupy Los Angeles can expand throughout the entire city while giving back to the community that has been so supportive.  Any "tribe" should be able to win endorsement and support from the G.A. and remain a part of Occupy Los Angeles simply by following the principles, guidelines, and occupational tactics anywhere in L.A.

Should we re-occupy city hall?  Absolutely, but not to the exclusion of other groups.  In other words, we can not and should not try to keep the whole south lawn.  It is bad for public support (nobody except the most dedicated of us would prefer a moldy stinky tarp mess to a cool, grassy shady spot).  This has been our only legal downfall; as long as we do not extinguish our commons—as long as we do not take ALL of city hall lawn – it is my understanding that we can legally stay as long as we want and our first amendment rights are protected by the Supreme Court. 

In addition to city hall, there are plenty of places we can go: for example, foreclosed homes.

Gather information and share it:  We are fighting corruption that has wormed its way into every aspect of our lives.  We have taken our cause to City Hall, and we will win it.  But there are so many centers of power in this economic and cultural capital.  Los Angeles is the dreamer of our world-wide postmodern nightmare, and for the world to be free, the information war must be won here. If we are going to properly Occupy Los Angeles, we need to Occupy all of Los Angeles.

I'm Daniil Dillenger and I speak for my goddamned self.

Happy Giving Thanks.

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Where Occupy lost my support . . . .

Dear Daniil,

I feel compelled to share some sentiments and, I guess, this is as good a place as any. I am a photographer and I am a lawyer. I have significant experience with political movements and the press. I have been to Oakland, San Francisco and Los Angeles documenting the Occupy movement, driving a collective 2,000+ miles and spending many hours to get the story straight.

Most of the general strike in Oakland (Nov. 3rd) was a major success for the movement - until the violence started at around 10:00am.

We all agree that "change" is necessary. Specifically, that change comes in the form of reinstituting tax harmonization; a practice that was abandoned, particularly, in the G.W. Bush years. Mass financial fraud was ratified by bailouts. The world gets it. There is a play to seriously handicap the economic well being of the "have-nots."

When the violence broke out in Oakland on November 3rd, it alienated the unions. This actually started around 3:00pm and really took off later. There is a culture amongst the unions which will not be part of this; especially where it is a public employee union. Further, I know for a fact that LAPD command has been bending over backward to prevent violent confrontations.

On the other hand, I witnessed a fight where several protesters attacked several LAPD officers at the Bank of America Plaza on November 17th. The photos are here: http://zinnanti.net/lightboxes/occupy111711/default.htm .

Any time I have even remotely questioned matters with respect to Occupy's tactics, parameters, etc., I get shouted down. Fine. After having handled a significant number of cases dealing with like matters, people have to learn for themself.

Occupy is going to fail - and the agenda is going to be handed right back to the bankster crooks - if Occupy doesn't do a number of things immediately:

1. Immediately renounced any and all violence.

2. Pre-empt confrontations with the police by coordinating with the police. Unbeknownst to many "occupiers" the LAPD was protesting by proxy because they were significantly hurt by recent unreasonable austerity measures. Occupy had their support and is losing that support. Occupy's fight is not with the police, it is with a corrupt establishment.

3. Establish parameters. A movement without goals is one thing. A movement without parameters is a disaster waiting to take place - and that disaster is unfolding.

4. Organize politcally and build a support database to call support from.

I have been around OLA wince its inception. As a photographer, I have always been VERY respectful of people. If they decline, I don't photograph. On the other hand - it's a protest. People expect to have a protest and ban photography?I was taking a photo of landscape of the camp the other night - with no one in the photo - just the collection of the tents, and I got assaulted.

There is a cadre of Occupiers who think that they are going to issue demands and those demands are going to be unilaterally complied with. Not only is this politically unsophisticated, it is doomed and is only going to result in violence.

I have experienced violence in Oakland. I have experienced violence in Los Angeles and I was threatened in San Francisco. Occupy is becoming synoymous with violence and thuggery. It may have been intended as a peaceful movement, but that IS NOT the way it is unfolding.

The present attitude and tactics employed by Occupy have alienated a considerable support base. The attitude and tactics are unreasonable, without definition and are aimless. On the other hand, there is a swath of people who are wholly in agreement with the underlying cause and are willing to get out in the street and be heard. In Oakland, there was at least 100,000 people in the street - easily enough to fill the Rose Bowl. I was there. I witnessed it. Yet, who take sthe reigns in the later of night are the anarchists operating under cover of this movement and all of the others who have been able to meld into the camps undetected.

Maybe the camps are a disatraction. Maybe the maintenance of the camps is causing energy and resources to be misdirected.

Remember a few things about political theory. There are four things those in power want: (1) to retain their power, (2) to expand their power, (3) the have a taxable populace and (4) to have a lower class sufficiently exploitable for their needs. That's it.

Occupy is poised to correct this. Occupy has the base in backing. Goldman Sachs and the powers that be must be laughing all the way to the bank when they see common folk duking it out with police. What a huge charade and distraction from the task at hand.

Tony Zinnanti - Attorney/Writer/Documentary Photographer

" When the violence broke out

" When the violence broke out in Oakland on November 3rd, it alienated the unions."

You have already made up your mind about all of this, so I'm not sure that it's reven you I'm really addressing. But one needn't endorse the isolated outbreaks of violence, none of which were sponsored or cheered on by Occupy, to note the irony in this statement, even assuming it's true. After all unions in the Bay Area have the strength they do in large part because their forebearers were willing to stand up physically to the police and National Guard, and to wage decidedly non-nonviolent battles with scabs and strikebreakers during the general strike of 1934...

I whole-heartedly agree with

I whole-heartedly agree with your assertions that non-violence is the only way this movement will succeed.  Totally, 100%, no argument there.  There have been a few folks in here, whom I suspect are well paid, advocating shall we say, a "less than optimal" approach to the issues?

Moving on, I looked at your pictures, and I'm a little curious?  There were 10 photographers/videographers, yourself being the 11th, all in a rather small area of the park.  I can't get the context from the photos, but...well...the chap with the mask has the look of a cornered animal.

A cornered animal, caught in a trap.  Like he'd been herded there.

I'm not a professional photographer.  I've only done casual darkroom work in college for the campus newspaper, and also the alumni association.  But I am a naturalist by training, and one thing I do know fairly well, is animal behavior.  Mask Man has wild eyes, the look of someone who is suddenly realizing they're about to get curb-stomped, and they're in full-on "OHSHITIMGONNADIE" fight-to-the-death mode.  

I've seen faces like that in Cairo, Tehran, Jerusalem, Rangoon, Bagdhad, Pretoria, Santiago and a host of other cities around the world.  Can you tell the common thread in all of those places?  I certainly hope you can?  They're all places where Mask Man has had that exact same look on their faces, because they're faced with the exact same thing:  a group of powerful predators that has suddenly surrounded them and pushed them into a fight for their very lives.

Those pictures look like a pack of wolves taking down a coyote that dared to cross their turf.

(And you and the other photographers in those pictures would seem to have played the role of carrion crows.

You don't know what the argument was about, how it started, who started it or why, all you know is that you got your juicy tidbits.

Color me suspicious of the authenticity of your assertions of violence.)

EDIT:  I've had a look through the other images in your website, and I see what you're talking about.  The damage, the smashed windows, the confrontations with police by those who are most certainly being belligerent.  So, I'll withdraw the comment about you playing the role of a carrion crow.  I've edited the reply so the comment in question is (in parenthesis).  Strike-out doesn't seem to work here.

That said, please provide more information regarding the images you linked us to.  Because while I'm withdrawing the comment comparing you to a crow, the rest of what I said still stands.  It looks like someone who got targeted for the benefit of the cameras.  So please, help fill in the gaps.

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Made up my mind, huh?

The core problem with the dialogue is (1) how quickly it becomes pejorative and (2) how dismissive it is. I have made up my mind?

Perhaps you're correct. A physical response is probably best. And, I've had a little experience with the "isolated incident" being attributed to the collective. I represent several charters of a motorcycle club that is constantly under the threat of terrorist indictment  because of the "isolated outbreaks of violence" that occur from time to time.

Your response is very akin to the responses I encounter when seeking to have some dialogue on Occupy - dismissive. What I find really interesting is that NO ONE from Occupy has ever asked a question pursuant to commentary; i.e., what is your background? what is the basis for your comments? how have certain politically charged situations resolved?

Never a single question. But, everyone is very full of answers and speeches.

Made up my mind? In some part, yes - definitely. I've made up my mind that there is a vanguard to the Occupy movement that gets it and understands how the movement has to change in order to have any impact. I've also made up my mind that there is a huge contingent of occupiers without any parameters and have zero political insight and are throwing the movement into a death spiral.

Go out and fight the cops - hand it to the Rush Limbaughs of the world on a silver platter. Hey - even Bill Ayers is now involved. Maybe he can enlist some of the Weather Underground's tactics from the early 70s. That'll show them!

Anyway, I wish you all well. BTW - it was the word "bitch" that caused a break with the unions. An occupier scrawled "bitch" across the from of the Wells Fargo branch just before the windows were taken out with a claw hammer. That word has a special significance with the unions - and it really upset people. Oh - and the windows that went out with the claw hammer? They weren't Wells Fargo's. They were the windows of the Clorox Company.

However, I'm sure there's a justification for it somewhere in someone's mind.

Tony Zinnanti - Attorney/Writer/Documentary Photographer

"MADE UP MY MIND, HUH?"

"MADE UP MY MIND, HUH?"

Yes, Mr. Zinnanti.  Made up your mind.  I didn't stutter.  You state as much explicitly, so I hardly see the point in your making a fuss when somebody notices it.

Anyway, you are correct to note that my response to your introductory post contained no questions--which is to say, it contained exactly as many questions as your introductory post did. 

You may find this hard to believe, but this is not the first time in my years of on-and-off political activism that I have found myself confronted with a person who, unasked, has offered a windy analysis of my tactics and those of my allies, complete with blanket statements, exaggerations, and grand pronouncements (e.g., "Occupy is going to fail if...") and capped off by a list of "helpful" platitudes.  Apart from the bit where, apropos of not much at all, you take an inane and rather Freeperish jab at old Bill Ayers, your post is pretty much the run of a very run-of-the-mill mill when it comes to allegedly progressive critiques of the nascent Occupy movement. 

So while you do not misstate the case when you point out that nobody has yet jumped at the chance to pick your brain during the five hours since you made your first post, you should remember that there is more than one likely reason for this.  In fact there are two: either we who frequent the Occupyy LA web forum are all (as folks used to say about George W. Bush) intellectually incurious, or we have not found in your writing any evidence that there's anything in your brain especially worth picking.  I'll let you decide which it is...but then, I have a feeling you've already made up your mind.

From a former volunteer

We occupy to build a better society”

Before you can become a better society you have to become a better community. I use to volunteer every single day for whatever needed to be done. But this was a big mistake. I’ve learned that there is very little respect and communication from the very “Committee” that are writing press releases, monitoring the forums and writing the blogs. I believe in the Occupy Movement, but I no longer believe and no longer have faith in Occupy Los Angeles leaders – and yes they are indeed leaders. There is no team work from the higher ups, there is a lot of disrespect coming from the top and there has been too many crucial mistakes and as the old saying goes – too many cooks in the kitchen.

I’ve heard people say, you don’t like it here, start you own Occupy. Thankfully there are other Occupy cities and now that I have spoken with some of them I will be working with them since they do utilize teamwork.

Ok PC

Well, thanks for your response. You have it perfectly figured out. I'll remember to remain mute  and not question the "peaceful" "free speech" movement.Your tone is clearly indicative that people who so much as question better keep their mouth shut.

One question before I completely end any and all coverage or investigation into Occupy, what have you done to organize a sustainable political base so as to achieve the "change" that is demanded? How have you collected information that can be called upon to influence the outcome of local, regional and national elections? How is Occupy going to breach the halls of lobbying that has so corrupted our political system? Or, is it just a matter of brute force anarchy that is going to plow head-on into the perceived failings of "the system"?

Tony Zinnanti - Attorney/Writer/Documentary Photographer

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