A response to Steve Lopez by Cheryl Aichele
If the LA Times wants to truly report on the First-Amendment Advocates at City Hall, maybe they should ditch the dismissive comments and start reporting. Here are a few things you missed.
This is writtin in response to the article located at this link http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-occupy-protests,0,4466...
5 weeks ago, I went to my first Occupy Los Angeles pre-planning meeting and found my revolution. I have worked 10-15 hours days, spoken to thousands of people, and have taken part in countless actions.
I'm going to go out on a limb myself: maybe the LA Times has missed something in their reporting or maybe they are manipulating this story to serve their own agenda.
You are right, we are not going anywhere but that does not mean we are stagnant.
Did you ever wonder why Los Angeles is the largest city participating in these occupations to have no violent confrontation with the police and why LA City Council was the first to pass a resolution in support of the occupation movement and their First Amendment Rights?
Whether you want to admit it or not, some of those you dismiss so easily actually took multiple actions during the planning and implementation process to communicate with City Officials regarding this peaceful prolong protest.
The Oakland Occupation and others could learn from the organizers at Occupy LA. Irvine’s Occupy did and they were able to get their own City Council to pass a similar Resolution to the one passed on October 12, 2011 by LA City Council in support of our endeavors.
You’re right; it’s hard to say how this will all play out.
I’ve been following the LA Times and other main stream media’s coverage, and it makes my mind ache as much as your body did joining us for just one day. So, now I feel compelled to set the record straight and make a few suggestions too.
For starters, I'd like to know if there's a concerted effort to misrepresent or manipulate coverage of the occupy movement. By that, I mean, are these mainstream media outlets receiving corporate money to distort the stories?
Maybe on your one-day stay at our encampment, you missed the fact that we have repeatedly come to consensus in our General Assemblies that Occupy LA will remain non-violent, so if an “ugly clash” occurs it will not be from anyone truly representing Occupy Los Angeles.
If we're allowed to stay, we intent to take up persistent actions aimed to solve the problems that have plagues our lives. And for some of us, our civic engagement will lead us to working with non-profits, such as Peace Corps. But we will not just limit ourselves to participation in community service.
Unfortunately it isn't easy to get straight reporting from LA Times or any of the other distrusted and despised mainstream media on these issues.
To answer your question to that poor and overworked woman volunteer organizer with a clipboard, yes we’ve been discussing how to handle an eviction or other responses. You’ll have to forgive her, I am sure she really needed to use the restroom and maybe she could tell from your demeanor how dismissive your article was going to be.
All right, I get it. LA Time’s profits are mainly derived from corporate money for advertising, Corporations that help journalist afford Dockers and I get that the paper’s journalistic integrity has been challenged for years now.
I’m down with making some money to write less-than-accurate articles, times are tough, someone has to pay for the Dockers, right? But why should the media be held accountable, while banksters and politicians get away with gross injustices against people who did have jobs, healthcare, and homes?
But I'm having trouble seeing how a poorly-written piece is going to help anything. Sure, it was great to read your exciting (yet inexact) editorial, but now what?
“The beauty of this is that it’s a leaderFUL movement,” said Mario Brito, the guy who was mentioned in the Times piece. “The challenge though is ‘How do we get media to cover this movement respectfully and accurately?’”
Precisely.
Lopez implies Occupy LA is and has been inactive; he fails to mention any of the multitude of actions we have taken including doing outreach at this weekend’s Green Festival at the Convention Center, or today’s demonstration we did in support of Juveniles caught up in the injustice system or 3 pieces of legislation we’ve been able to influence inside City Hall in the last 3 weeks. Not to mention, the fact that we plan to impact a 4th piece of legislation next week, making it 4 legislations in 4 weeks.
But each time we do anything positive, productive, or impactful—the “lame”stream media is too busy trying to figure out how to undermine our actions.
I'm beginning to think the media is all falsification and no real coverage.
I don't think the mayor, City Council, or the police should evict us either. And if you agree, we encourage you to let them know that you support us. You can pick up a flyer from our Welcome Tent to get those numbers if you are unable to find the numbers on your own.
I don't understand why reporters are content to degrade the Occupation Movement endlessly when there are so many better ways to cover our movement and advance our cause by portraying us more correctly.
Mario Brito, who's been out there from the beginning, should have told us to be patient with the media’s coverage of our endeavors, because some bad articles have been written, including the one that inspired this response.
"It's indeed an exercise in patience," says Aichele, the author of this response, reminding the reader that sometimes media is just Bull but not the red kind.
"It's all about the money," one peaceful protester claims, suggesting the LA Times sold us out for greedy reasons.
I've heard many concerns about media manipulation, and here's a thought: Why not demand the media be held responsible for their subpar reporting?
And as far as your suggestions of sending occupiers to different college campuses each day, I suggest that your become the “leaderless” organizer of this project, since it’s your idea and you seem so intent on it. Because I have to tell you, the rest of us are busy working on our own actions such as reforming the laws through the legislative process on all levels of government (my personal passion).
Maybe you were too busy writing a smear story about occupiers to have heard we forced Bank of America to reverse its announcement of a $5 debit card charge. So, while you think we’re just passing joints in our tents, we’re actually influencing the business of big banks and the laws that hold them Responsible. Did you fail to catch the fact that Occupy LA helped moved LA City Council’s Responsible Banking Ordinance forward in committee?
And as far as your suggestion of marching to skid row, we’ve already beat you to it because 4 days ago, we did just that. Not to mention the homeless outreach we’ve being doing all along. We have also been speaking out against all who have lost their home through our Home Owners Committee. Did you miss that as well on your one-day stay at Occupy LA?
And again, in regards to your suggestion lending a hand to bomb-rattled soldiers, we’ve showed our solidarity for Iraq War Vet Scott Olsen who was in critical condition after Oakland Police shot him in the head with a canister. Olsen has sustained brain damage and can no longer talk. Where’s the LA Times coverage of Olsen?
And this doesn’t even begin to mention the other work we’ve done with Vets.
All your suggestions and criticisms are fine. However, opinion without action and criticism without contribution is running rampant around the encampment. What we need is all the criticizers to put their energy into all the actions we are planning or to plan their own actions.
I am sure our Print Media team (the one that handles the silk-screens) would love to help you with your library-aides idea. And I am sure one of the Orange County Occupations, can help you handle your Disney-resort idea as well.
You see, there are thousands of occupation popping up in cities across this nations, including 50 alone in the state of California with dozens here in Southern California including Venice, Riverside, Ventura, Santa Clarita, Santa Barbara, San Diego, Huntington Beach, Long Beach, Irvine, Costa Mesa, Coachella Valley, and Palm Desert.
Not to mention the occupations being planned as we speak in Pasadena, Burbank and other southern California area.
Not to mention the fact that each day we have different actions that take us to different sites off of City Hall lawn.
So the question is why not write stories with journalistic integrity? Why not report on the real news of our actions? Why not cover the story of LA’s Mayor who wants to be the “Greenest Mayor” but who thinks grass is a sustainable landscape in this desert climate or that the literal grassroots of the lawn are far more important than our First-Amendment-Rights grassroots actions?

16 Comments
Have a bad day, Steve?
Submitted by 1stofMay on
Cheryl said it all. The only thing I can add is that your article surprised me, Steve. I thought it was unduly critical of a movement that's just finding its legs - a movement which your past columns have led me to believe you would support. I will give you the benefit of the doubt. We all have a bad day and it's always easy to criticize from the sidelines. Yes, we'd all like things to move faster - we'd all like to wave a magic wand and there we all are in an equitable society where each and every one of us matters. I know you know it doesn't work that way. Give this time. And when some time has passed, hopefully you'll revisit your opinion and write a column supportive of Occupy Los Angeles. You owe them that.
Unfortunately, your column unleashed a veritable torrent of hate in its comments section. Hard to understand those who find so much to despise about people who are doing what they feel is right and putting themselves on the line to effect change in a crumbling, corrupt society.
Steve, we're all feeling our way here. Let's let this thing unfold and see where it takes us. We have nothing to look forward to from crony capitalism and the Republicrats. No one has offered a more potentially powerful alternative to what ails the world than the Occupiers around the globe.
In Solidarity with Occupy Los Angeles!
I apprecitated your reply. It
Submitted by piratebec on
I apprecitated your reply. It is a movement that is just finding its legs and sometimes I want change so fast and with so much anger that I get discouraged with just sitting in a tent. I want to assist this movement however possible and trust me, if it were class warfare- not ashamed to call it that- I would be first in line risking my life for the greater good. But how is gathering in downtown under our apathetic and out of touch local politicians going to change in anything? Please understand I ask this question sincerely and without judgement.
Damn those who submit to be governed by laws which rich men have made for their own security.
-Sam Bellamy
It's going to take some time
Submitted by 1stofMay on
Yeah, I know what you mean about the anger and wanting change so fast. Every day there's an outrage to confront - environmental, socio-political, economic, etc.
Still, no use settling for a quick fix at this point. It's been a long, cold wait but we're on our way now. The Occupiers are doing it right - feeling their way - correcting course as they go along. And we have their backs. We're all part of this. It's for all of us - all the 99%. We're all in it if we want to be.
Yup, it's Class War (without the violence). The oligarchy doesn't want to hear that because it means we've woken up, we're onto them and we're working for change.
Chris Hedges has written some fine articles about the OWS protests. The last page of his column, posted today, addresses what we're talking about. You can find it here: http://www.truthdig.com/report/page3/a_master_class_in_occupation_20111031/
In solidarity!
Failing to participate while reserving the right to criticize...
Submitted by tovangar2 on
...is not a tenable or attractive position piratebec. The whole world is watching you too.
I'm just one person but I'm amazed to hear that you are aware of none of the many actions Occupy LA has taken, not the least of which was going from a start date of 1 October to having 10-15K people marching in the streets of LA on 15 October in solidarity with countless others on every continent (yes, there's an #OccupyAntarctica). How's that for escalation of the class war?
Our first objective was to find each other, to coax out the timid, to let the isolated know they were not alone (man, if we had a nickel for every person who's said, "I thought I was the only one!") and affording people a space to see the connections among all who make up the 99%, not their differences, and maybe most importantly, helping people to imagine or reimagine how life could be if the rule of law and our rights were restored in a just and equitable world. I think we've been quite successful at this so far.
What you don't see is the huge number of people everywhere, inspired by the Occupy encampments, taking real responsibility for making positive changes in their own lives, participating in and promoting boycotts, organizing donations, talking to their neighbors (about real issues, not the usual guns, gays & god rubbish the 1% tries to limit us to), tweeting and retweeting to knit the Occupys together and reach the larger public, proposing new actions and putting significant thought (maybe for the first time) into how the 99% intend to govern ourselves. You don't see the folks glued to the Livestreamed GA's, thrashing out ideas, suggestions and proposals with the other members of the "Chat Committee" for those on the ground in DTLA. Occupiers all. NY AG Eric Scheinderman was right when he called the Occupy encampments "The tip of a much bigger iceberg" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLhsVpwY2Tk - watch from the 12:20 mark).
If you don't like the way Occupy LA is going, or just don't get it, don't just "sit in a tent", join in and make it what you want it to be, what it can be. The Movement needs and welcomes EVERY voice, your voice, and all the ideas, enthusiasm and love you can muster. So come on piratebec. What have you done today in aid of tomorrow's General Strike and "Buy Nothing" day? What will you do tomorrow? How about Saturday's Bank action? The next General Strike? A proposed Constitutional Convention? A civil-disobedience or direct action you've come up with?
Thank you
Submitted by Kimma on
The next time Mr. Lopez writes a piece, he'll have some facts to add to his article. Thank you for taking the time to write this.
Kim
"Excess ain't rebellion"
That Article
Submitted by JAYnLA on
I read the article in question and found it to be quite accurate. What has been accomplished that isn't about the organization of the camp itself? The world outside of the camp doesn't really care that your GA's solve issues about the camp itself -- they want to know what you're doing to address the collusion between Wall St. and the governement -- you know, what OWS is actually about. Not being snarky here -- I'm calling it like I see it.
- JAY n LA
that's right liz!
Submitted by Yvonne de la Vega on
you are the "set the fu*kers straight committee"
exactly what I question as well:
"The Revolution will not be televised, it will be on Youtube." -Yvonne de la Vega
Yvonne I like that committee,
Submitted by lizsavage on
Yvonne I like that committee, lets make it an affinity group!
My current groups: Web committee co point person, social media co point person, media, Love tribe, Keeping it Real, More Revolution, Less Party, and now "Set the F*ckers Straight! lol
My words represent myself and not Occupy Los Angeles. @lizsavage on Twitter
heh heh
Submitted by Yvonne de la Vega on
yes, affinity group! i'm in!
about the "set the fu*kers straight committee" - no b.s. gets past us, we have the 411 for you since you're so wrong and misinformed, we have built in bullshit detectors so don't even try ya fu*kers
and we prefer to heh heh as opposed to lol or lmao
"The Revolution will not be televised, it will be on Youtube." -Yvonne de la Vega
You should...
Submitted by ctizzie on
Join the "General Services Division" - the GSD - or as it's more commonly known: "Getting Shit Done." We could have inter-affinity group affinity. ;)
in response to your response
Submitted by piratebec on
I have a feeling this is the result of wanting to do something to change the system that exploits us however not knowing where to start. The problem is so big and rooted in our laws how do you change it? When people began sprouting tents on the lawn of city hall I supported them; even though I thought it ironic that if a homeless person tried the same thing they would've been arrested. I admire the commitment the Occupy movement has and their actions assist in getting the message out there. However, I too question the act of camping on a lawn to make that change possible. I will continue to support the Occupy movement through honking as I drive to work in skid row as I want demonstrators to know people are listening. But Steve I think you may be right with participating in direct action. If you are fed up with banks don’t use them, credit unions are better anyway, if you don’t like corporations stop shopping. I believe that as consumers if we educated ourselves we could bring about change. Support those who work in solidarity for the greater good. Stop going to disneyland stop using banks and stop buying your groceries at Target – no union equals cheaper produce and as a responsible consumer you have POWER even if this means paying 14 cents more for a banana! Buy American made and boycott business that do not sell American made or that pay less than a livable wage.
Damn those who submit to be governed by laws which rich men have made for their own security.
-Sam Bellamy
Damn piratebec, I'm gob-smacked that you don't know that....
Submitted by tovangar2 on
...all your suggestions are already being acted on by Occupy LA. (Are you on Twitter? Follow @OccupyLA to stay updated.)
I've answered your first post from earlier (above) but I'll try to answer this one too w/o repeating myself too much.
Like I said, I'm just one person, but I know that homeless people are camping on the lawn at City Hall, including very active members of Occupy LA and some non-participants who just showed up. None have been arrested.
"Bank Transfer Day" is November 5th. This is a national Occupy action fully supported by Occupy LA. It's a mass call for people to take their money out of the major banks and put it in credit unions instead. There will be a March to the various banks in DTLA too, if you'd like to come along.
There is a General Strike tomorrow, this includes a "Buy Nothing" component. This action was originally organized by Occupy Oakland in support of the Marine who was so badly hurt there in an act of police brutality, but has gone national. Occupy LA has sent 19 people to Oakland in support of the strike action, including five camerapersons.
Protesters are obviously fully on board with "buy local, buy used, buy less". Many hit the bountiful dumpsters behind Trader Joe's and Whole Foods the night before their weekly shop at local markets and Farmers' Markets. I can tell you, it makes an awesome dent in one's grocery costs. (& BTW, I didn't even know one could buy groceries at Target - I don't shop there).
Many of us don't buy new clothes either. We either spend a bit at thrift stores or trade between friends or come by other cast-offs. It's amazing how many people put clean, folded clothes in seperate bags next to their trash - bless their hearts. Come by the Print Lab at Occupy LA & one of the Print Crew will print you up a used, donated t-shirt or other item for free. Or bring your own shirt and they'll print that.
Boycotts are an integral part of the Occupy Movement and not just of the banks. You could start by checking out the ALECexposed.org website for 300 truly appalling corporations and a list of their products that would be worth your while boycotting.
We don't go to Disneyland, we're too busy.
Occupy LA is in solidarity with other entities that "work for the greater good", including unions, by participating in joint actions. Many have endorsed Occupy LA. Occupy's policy is to endorse no one.
Stop by the Welcome tent to see the list of upcoming direct actions or check here on their web site.
Thanks for honking in support & for your work on the Nickel.
PB it's about finding legs and then taking steps...
Submitted by Rancho Larry on
... To calling for a Constitutional Convention. Man it's gonna be a lot of work but is anything more valuable than out freedom from the Crony Capitalism and Political Cronyism we live with now?
Read about the process and history Here
This Ain’t No Party This Ain’t No Disco This Ain’t no Fooling Around..
Rancho Larry
Steve Lopez article
Submitted by seniorcit on
I've just read the article. My opinion is that Mr. Lopez is one of the "instant gratification" crowd who wouldn't mind a better world, but a grassroots movement is just not going to produce results soon enough for him. Maybe he's been in the corporate world of deadlines too long.
He spent a night at OLA, still couldn't see the forest for the trees, so he saved face by slapping a label of inadequacy on the movement. Threw out some suggestions to make himself feel better and then walked away to his next gig.
Some sympathizers don't get it, yet, but they will. And that's okay.
on Lopez article
Submitted by Supersean on
That Steve Lopez article makes me mad. Not at him, at us. Say what you want but we missed a great chance to get some good publicity. People know Steve Lopez, people read him, well at least those that still read papers! He actually has the eyeballs we need reading his column.
It might not be a bad idea to invite him back after a while.
Advertisors are afraid that
Submitted by Jasen T Davis on
Advertisors are afraid that people will read the article, want to help Occupy LA, and then corporations will lose all of the power they have in politics as a larger portion of the citizens of America start to become more aware of the issues and vote according to their best interests.
The mistake the media makes (including myself) is that they believe that they define reality. Coca-cola advertises in your magazine, so you don't run the article about how Coca-cola is responsible for more civil rights abuses across the planet than Hitler in his prime.
So the magazine doesn't print it, you don't read it, and the civil rights abuses thing simply doesn't exist.
The media is stupid. We are all the media now. Citizens United was a waste of time. Twitter, blogger, Facebook, email, webpages, hyperlinks, flash mobs...it's all cheap and free. Pick a politician that is in bed with corporations. Use the free media to get everyone to the polls to vote the idiot out of office.
No matter how many cops and laws and politicians and how much money they have, voting is still free and people can still vote. Combine that with free media and 75% of the public participating in every election, and you have a revolution without breaking any laws or spilling any blood, which is what the founding fathers of the US intended.
Occupy LA persists because of these, and other media outlets that are recording things objectively, but also because normal people are going to the free media to find out about the movement, just like we are all doing on this forum right now.
I see the Lopez article as an example of the ignorance of the opposition. The fact is, as more and more people in America join Occupy LA (and every poll they run everywhere shows the numbers increasing) the LA Times will have to run positive articles to stay relevant, and we'll all enjoy a laugh at their hypocrisy.
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