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if public gather to protest as it is granted in the U.S. Constitution is taken away, WE ARE DONE AS A NATION. If this is the case, it will be time to declare war on the police. nuff said.
Submitted by disgruntled on
if public gather to protest as it is granted in the U.S. Constitution is taken away, WE ARE DONE AS A NATION. If this is the case, it will be time to declare war on the police. nuff said.
POLICE ARE NOT THE PROBLEM
Submitted by Justice4all on
Police are slaves to the system they are attached to it by their pension promise their 401k promise and their health benefits. they are not the beast they are part of the 99%. from oakland and whats going on in new york and chicago we need to learn that we need to attack the city officals more. DID YOU contact the oakland mayors office, email them facebook her anything? WE need to attack and focus this anger towards the correct people and those are the ones in charge!
"IF you think in terms of a year, plant a seed, if in terms of ten years, plant trees, if in terms of 100 years, teach the people" -Confucius
WE MUST TEACH THE PEOPLE!
Agreed
Submitted by redcodefinal on
The police are the 99% be nice to them and they'll be nice to you. A lot of them agree with our cause so attacking them is highly ill advised.
-redcodefinal
Very true, but all it takes
Submitted by markman2008 on
Very true, but all it takes is one person to be a jackass and the police will be all over the entire movement!
http://occupyamericamovement.com/
Responsibility
Submitted by Flyte on
If all it takes is one person, then it is the responsibility of everyone attending to make sure they do not become that one person. Show restraint in your actions, and remind your fellow compatriots to do the same. If this movement maintains solidarity in its nonviolent methods, it will retain its original message and will be respected for its unwavering devotion to a single cause.
Violence is not the answer.
Well said. There is more
Submitted by mlaine on
Well said. There is more respect in the people who use nonviolence than the thugs who riot.
Play nice
Submitted by elevenore on
The cops are the 99%, and I'm pretty sure a lot of them would love to be arresting those we are railing against. Maybe even one day, they will. IF this thing gets out of hand and violent, then the movement is dead. Don't let them piss you off to the point where that happens. That's how they will try to kill the movement, by acting like we are violent. Make it impossible for anyone to believe that.
One cop
Submitted by lucky's dad on
One cop told me that if we fail, they will eventually come for his collective barganing rights as well.
Point of Information re: Cops.
Submitted by Weekend Warrior on
Due to extreme overcrowding at LA County jail because of the new state sentencing law effective Oct. 1, the only thing the cops can do to non-violent protesters is to cause actual physical injuries during the dispersal and arrest processes.
Occupy LA people should consider that County Jail is so horribly over-crowded, people convictied of misdemeanor charges are being released without doing any time at all. The only time you would really would do for a typical failing to disperse arrest is the time spent waiting to go to court (although the sheriff will probably cite you out -i.e. release you on your promise to appear). Moreover, assuming the City Attorney would file charges on you, the court may be eager to settle your case cheaply so it doesn't have to appoint a public defender.(By the way, the court could make you civilly lible to reimburse the county for the legal services of any appointed counsel.) Note also that both the Public Defender and the Alternate Public Defender will have to conflict on your case if they also represent a witness involved to your arrest, such as a fellow demonstrator arrested at the same time. If this happens, the court will have to pay a private lawyer who will charge the county up the ying-yang to represent you.
If you are convicted of anything, often you will be allowed the choice of a fine, community service, or jail. Respectifully take the jail sentence. You'll be kicked out immediately and have no further obligations. I say "respectfully" because if the judge wanted to screw you, he or she can set a high bail and put off your court date off to another day. The court can make you civilly liable for state restitution fines, however.
The only thing you have to really worry about then, other than chemical poisoning or a broken skull, is your criminal record. On that note, consider that any conviction you can get for a non-violent resistance offenses can eventually be expunged. As for employers, it is probably best that you don't work for anyone to whom such an arrest would make a difference. It probably would make no difference to the State Bar, the Medical Board, or other licensing agencies. You may not be able to be a cop, however. Perhaps one day you will brag to an employer about your arrest during the historic Occupy demonstrations.
I am not advocating any law breaking, I just want everyone to know exactly how tall they can stand (or how limp they can make their bodies) if there are instances of illegal police conduct similar that on display in Oakland.
Tom Burns, raroof3@gmail.com
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