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Seth, the moderators removed the post and I was unable to see if you had responded. I would love to hear if you have any more input on George Soros being behind Adbusters and more on "TIDES".
I think this is very important to follow the money behind the Adbusters involvement with the Occupy movement. Of course I am not implying the people involved at the grassroots level have nothing but the best of intentions.
I am posting an excerpt from the article, whoever reads, please focus on the facts and not the connotations of NWO conspiracy. The ties of money to the movement is what's important.

Seth Spinolla linked article content
Submitted by Mahayana on
Now there are some pundits who want you to believe this is all orchestrated by corrupt, organized labor unions such as the AFL-CIO, or the SEIU. At least according to the “Leader” I talked with, this is not the case. The SEIU has supported their activity somewhat, he said, but it is not the orchestrator of the event. That honor belongs to “ADBUSTERS”.
So, who or what, is ADBUSTERS??? Anti-consumerism is their mantra. Take a few minutes and watch a collection of their ads shown on You-Tube. Notice anything strange? How about running TV Ads advocating people stop watching TV. That TV corrupts the mind.
So, after getting a feel for “Adbusters” I really began to dig. Making a half-dozen calls to contacts in banking and finance, I learned that ADBUSTERS was originally formed thanks to an initial $185,000 GRANT from a very shady and questionable non-profit organization domiciled in San Francisco CA (just down the road from Bohemian Grove and the Presidio PSY OPS HQ by the way) calling themselves the Tides Center. I learned that all OWS financial needs are thus paid by “Tides” with a legal straw man entity called “ADBUSTERS”.
TIDES FOUNDATION! What a name. Tides are governed by the MOON Cycles you see. Moon cycles also influence DATES, astrology, scrying. Tides also affect the psyche of humans – for the term LUNACY comes from Lunar – the MOON CYCLES. The “Illuminati” declared their worldwide influence can and often does “turn the tides” of the planet. Get the drift?
We learn from www.tides.org, that “Tides has managed project and grantmaking activities totaling more than $2 billion.
In 2010, Tides had assets of approximately $267.6 million and managed project and grantmaking activities of approximately $243.5 million, including $86.2 million in financial activities for our fiscally sponsored nonprofit projects and $157.3 million in grantmaking and related activities. Tides also managed $26 million in real-estate related assets committed to the promotion of green nonprofit centers in 2010.”
So, besides O.W.S. – what other “project activities” is TIDES FOUNDATION involved in? Can we find out who donates these millions to “Tides”? Follow the money, folks, follow the money. Talk about MONEY buying influence and change!! Talk about corporate greed and Ego-ism!!! Talk about Psy-Ops and young students being mind-controlled, bought off, and used as puppets! Talk about HYPOCRISY!!! – Well welcome to O.W.S. the “Occupy Movement” (and the “Arab Spring”.)
REVIEWING THE TIDES DISCLOSURES PAGE
In order to maintain “non-profit” (non tax) basis, the IRS requires tax-exempt foundations such as “Tides” to publish “disclosures”. Here we see that MILLIONS of dollars have been donated to “Tides” from something called the “Open Society” – which we then find to be a wholly owned FOUNDATION of Mr. George Soros – the “evil emperor” himself. Keep in mind what George Soros is, good people. He’s the front man for the House of Rothschild who by his own admission sent innocent Hungarian SEPHARDI Jews to the Nazi gas chambers. He is also one of the world’s richest shysters who made his billions via global market manipulation and insider trading! He is the very epitome of EVERYTHING WRONG WITH CAPITALIST GREED – the very thing that O.W.S. says they hate and despise so deeply!!!! Get the picture???
Follow the trail people. House of Rothschild —– George Soros —— Open Society Foundation ——– Tides Foundation ——- Adbusters ————- Occupy Wall Street. There you have it. PRS – Problem - Reaction – Solution.
The legitimate object of government, is to do for a community of people, whatever they need to have done, but can not do, at all, or can not, so well do, for themselves - in their separate, and individual capacities. -Abe
Are OWS needs paid by Tides?
Submitted by Fex on
Mahayana, that does not mean Occupy is currently funded by either group. Are they?
Adbusters and Anonymous (which could be Adbusters, Anonymous could literally be anybody of any affiliation) supported and promoted Occupy before even the first protest. That does not mean Adbusters is currently funding OWS or is a big hitter.
But . . . is it funding OWS in a big way? That would be interesting to know. If so, it'd be a great "FU" to 'em to turn around and sever ties... I get the feeling this movement is it's own beast. Thanks for all the fish, see ya - would be a great message if they did back this to begin with.
"Word following word- I wrought words. Deed following deed, I wrought deeds." - The Havamal
However
Submitted by Fex on
However if Soros donated to Tides, then depends how much of a % of their donations. Many politicos and other 1% power folks donate all over the place simply for tax breaks and/or looking good, it doesn't mean because Adbuster got funding from Tide and Tide got some money from Soros that they're in his pocket. It is definitely worth looking into. Either way, this movement can and probably should officially say (and practice it) that there are no ties to anybody except the people who make up the movement.
If " ... all OWS financial needs are thus paid by “Tides” with a legal straw man entity called “ADBUSTERS” " that is disturbing, we should end it. And carry on with Occupy too. The message *is* important. And it's important to not be controlled by anyone else except ourselves.
"Word following word- I wrought words. Deed following deed, I wrought deeds." - The Havamal
Clarification - adbusters
Submitted by nobody on
Clarification - adbusters invented the idea of Occupy Wall Street.
The first occupation was really done by the NYC GA, which was originally a meeting called by ANSWER, but when it turned out to be a fake GA, several anarchists and horizontal political people decided to have a real GA. Then the real one became a real, regular GA. Occupy Wall Street was not an organization, just a concept, and since it was being "advertised" already, NYC GA decided to try it out.
David Graeber wrote a good article explaining this.
ANSWER, ADBUSTERS--different piles, same *chit*
Submitted by Seth Spinolla on
The FACT remains that the founders of Adbusters and ANSWER, the National Lawyers Guild..ad infinitum are Left-wing covertly financed groups! Occupy Wallstreet was/is a World Order LEFTY instigated event.
None Dare Call it Conspiracy: The plan of the international bankers to create a world socialist super-state
http://modernhistoryproject.org/mhp?Article=NoneDare
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John Adams was a wannabe
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John Adams was a wannabe monarchist, and anti-democratic President. He was also wrong about debt.
Here's the deal - Soros is a 1%er who is a liberal. His Open Society is a liberal organization, and have spent a lot of resources on things like ending the drug war, freedom in Burma, and funding clearinghouses like Tides. Tides is a liberal-leaning foundation.
The function of liberal foundations is partly to push a social democrat agenda, but it also tends to prevent revolutionary alternatives. That is, the ideas that the rich liberals fund will also tend to be geared toward reform rather than revolution. They will put pressure to change laws rather than to destroy and overturn the US government.
So you'll see Tides fund organizations like "Adbusters" that deal with media issues of interest to college educated middle class people... but are they funding organizations that work in poor communities and advocate the overthrow of the government? No.
Now, let's consider the OWS demands. They are basically pretty liberal, and mostly around issues of interest to the middle class. Look at OLA - it's very reformist. It all fits together - yes, the OSI and Tides have put these ideas together. They work to attract middle class (mostly white) people. So, if Soros' intent is to mobilize liberals, his funding worked.
If the intent of the OP was to smear Adbusters and OWS as being controlled by a 1%-er... it won't work. This isn't the Tea Party. This is OWS.
Because what's really up is that the right wing think tanks are way more powerful. They're nonprofits that are tax shelters for the super-rich. They write legislation that is designed to make the 1% richer and richer. They concoct the myth of the "free market". The right wing think tanks like Heritage Foundation, Cato Institute, Club for Growth, ALEC, and even the US Chamber of Commerce are the real 1%.
George Soros a Liberal?
Submitted by Seth Spinolla on
Soros and others are neither Liberals, Consevatives, Democrats or Repubs. The are just the super-rich manipulators/controller of the direction of society through existing and newly created 'political groups'--parties, and the many Orgs. and Institutes they fund. Period.
Don't be fooled by labels seemingly describing the rich and super-rich. They funded Bolshevism, Nazism and lots of Isms (religous ones too and umbrella groups like the World Council of Churches etc.) in the last century. They continue to move society in directions they want by their many 'financed' organisations, even those supposedly dedicated to opposing them! THEY ARE SIMPLY THE 1%! They always come out on top, profitting from the misery they have caused, the machinations they set in play in bringing about the dialectical clashes of groups they, themselves, have financed into being.
Without free speech no search for the truth is possible, no discovery of truth is useful. Better a thousandfold abuse of speech than denial. The abuse dies in a day, but the denial slays the life of the people, and entombs the hope of the race.
Left Wing & Right Wing Think Tanks financed by the same people
Submitted by Seth Spinolla on
The idea there is a separateness between 'right wing' and 'leftwing' thinktanks and institutes is an illusion. I know of those enlisted here, but by ommission left out the 'left wing' thinktanks and in which case, most of these so-called 'right wing' thinktanks are hardly but disguised Leftists pretending to be what they are not. All of them are sides of the same coin and that coin is owned by the Banksters.
That's just what uninformed and the wilfully blind are missing in seeing the whole picture. Those in the rank and file of the Left, the Right and Center are equally blinded and in denial of the fact the same people control them. I say people, because though organised groups in the form of corporations, foundations, think tanks, parties etc. seem impersonal entities...the fact is the leadership/controlling interests/owners etc. ARE people--not figments of one's imagination.
None Dare Call it Conspiracy: The plan of the international bankers to create a world socialist super-state
http://modernhistoryproject.org/mhp?Article=NoneDare
Without free speech no search for the truth is possible, no discovery of truth is useful. Better a thousandfold abuse of speech than denial. The abuse dies in a day, but the denial slays the life of the people, and entombs the hope of the race.
Koch Brothers, Soros, Newhouse and Murdoch
Submitted by Seth Spinolla on
Don't give me any flack about 'antisemitism'. Henry Makow the author of this peice and this website is Jewish. He exposes the 1% as Jewish or otherwise. He shows how they play the dialectic game of controlling opposites, so that they really are oppo-sames. This peice focuses on the evil Koch brothers, but they are just the tweedle-dees to the tweedle-dums in the Tweedle family of megalomaniacs of corporate billionaires and banksters.
The Zionist Billionaires Who Control Politics
http://www.henrymakow.com/koch.html
Without free speech no search for the truth is possible, no discovery of truth is useful. Better a thousandfold abuse of speech than denial. The abuse dies in a day, but the denial slays the life of the people, and entombs the hope of the race.
Hey Fex, I'm not sure yet if
Submitted by Mahayana on
Hey Fex, I'm not sure yet if any of this is true. I was trying to get Seth Spinolla to respond. He was the one that originally posted that article. (Which got removed by a mod) I have to say, I am extremely skeptical of any organization, although I have no doubt that the vast majority of the people involved with OWS are in fact genuine and have good intentions.
My paranoid mind begins to ask things like "Who are the very first people that organized this?" "Where did the money come from?" You know, this site was up from the beginning along with the FB page. This isn't amateur web design. This all costs money. Who is funding it? Who owns this URL?
The United States has funded many coups against foreign governments in the past in order to bring in leaders that would be more willing to cooperate with us. How do we know that the same is not happening now? Maybe the powers that be want something so extreme, that they have to set the stage right to make it look like WE came up with the idea, otherwise we would never go along with it. You know what I would do if I was one of the elite uber rich that had money spanning across the globe? I would devalue the currency of every country in the world, causing economic collapse. (Hmm, bank transfer day is a start) Since me and a handful of others own all of the money in the world, why would we want to deal with the hassle of currency conversions, all those pesky economic policies and governments? It would be so much easier to manage under one economic system. Sure, it sounds a lot like a "New World Order", but ultimately, wouldn't that actually be the logical thing to do? It could be a utopian society where everything runs so efficiently that everyone prospers and we see the end to poverty, hunger and violence......OR, if the past history of mankind is any indicator, it will be the ultimate corporatocracy where we slave away in order to get our measly monthly payment on our Debit Cards issued by JP Morgan.
Sorry, I went off on a tangent but that's just one thought floating around in my head. I will definitely look more into the Adbusters/Soros/TIDES connection. It is amazing though what you can uncover when you just follow the money.
The legitimate object of government, is to do for a community of people, whatever they need to have done, but can not do, at all, or can not, so well do, for themselves - in their separate, and individual capacities. -Abe
This website looks like it's
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This website looks like it's a canned theme running on Drupal. It cost very little or nothing to set up. Drupal.org. It's free.
Steve Lerner?
Submitted by Yvonne de la Vega on
Hi Mahayana,
Here, check this out:
CAUGHT ON TAPE: Former SEIU Official Reveals Secret Plan To Destroy JP Morgan, Crash The Stock Market, And Redistribute Wealth In America
peace,
yvonne
"The Revolution will not be televised, it will be on Youtube." -Yvonne de la Vega
Oh yeah agree
Submitted by Fex on
Oh yeah I agree. But this movement can bite them back if that is the case. So, where is the money? and if it's bad money, let's remove it and give them what for.
"Word following word- I wrought words. Deed following deed, I wrought deeds." - The Havamal
TIDES Board Members
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http://www.tides.org/about/board/
Gack. Half that board is
Submitted by nobody on
Gack. Half that board is full of dirty capitalists. Bankers. Centrist scum. Moderates. Democrats. That New Capitalist thing sounds like a lame Libertarian project. I half expect that worthless charlatan racist Ron Paul to be on that board.
No wonder Adbusters was so slick and boring.
Another Blogstream on another tangential connection
Submitted by Seth Spinolla on
Sorry, Mahayana. I've not been able to do more research, but it looks like helper has started. That's what I would do (presuming the information about Adbusters having started out with a grant from Tides is true). I looked at the names and the references of a few. The name Joanie Bronfman caught my attention noticeably of course. Don't know if she is related to the infamous Canadian Bronfman, but I am suspecting so. I did a bit of googling on her and found someone by that name donated to a prominent democratic politician and I also saw a Canadian connection. That was just a quick search, barely a glance, so I don't know yet if they are the same person (the Canadian Bronfmans have always had connections to American bus. and politics).
I've not yet found the time to drag myself away from other distractions to determine who exactly is Kalle Lasn (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalle_Lasn) of Adbusters, which is claimed to have launched the Occupy Wall Street movement (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/blogpost/post/occupy-wall-street-an-interview-with-kalle-lasn-the-man-behind-it-all/2011/10/12/gIQAC81xfL_blog.html).
There is another tangential blogstream which could tie in. I had done some research on a character who wrote a book on tactical measures for revolution Gene Sharp mentioned in the video at that stream (which I saw weeks ago). Here is that stream url here on this site: http://occupylosangeles.org/?q=node/1164
*Gene Sharp--Professor of political science at the University of Massachusetts Dartmouth since 1972. Simultaneously, he held research appointments at Harvard's 'Center for International Affairs' since 1965. In 1983 he founded the Albert Einstein Institution, a non-profit organisation devoted to studies and promotion of nonviolent action in conflicts worldwide.
The aim of the Center was to confront the world's problems as diagnosed by Robert R. Bowie and HENRY KISSINGER. in their specification of The Program of the Center for International Affairs (1958): Robert Bowie--American Diplomat and schola...r who served as CIA Deputy Director from 1977-1979. Served as Director of Policy Planning from 1953-1957; co-founder of Harvard's Center for International Affairs (1958); Counselor for the State Department from 1966-68. He is a member of the COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS, the TRILATERAL COMMISSION, and the American Academy of Diplomacy. He is a receipient of the Legion of Merit and the Commander's Cross of the Order of Merit of the Federal Republic of Germany.
Y'all know who Henry Kissinger is. Y'all should know the gravitas of the CFR and the Trilaterals in world affairs to which both these men belonged. It seems Sharp moved in these circles, before he founded his 'Einstein' institution (*choke*). Perhaps the accusation of CIA being behind these 'freedom democracy' movements have some grit in them. It's kind of odd, but it was leftists like Howard Zinn and Naom Chomsky who came to Sharp's and his 'Einsteinian' institute's defense. This most certainly is a World Order Affair behind these so-called 'Revolutions'. Controlled-opposition.*
Without free speech no search for the truth is possible, no discovery of truth is useful. Better a thousandfold abuse of speech than denial. The abuse dies in a day, but the denial slays the life of the people, and entombs the hope of the race.
Seth Spinola, are you some
Submitted by nobody on
Seth Spinola, are you some kind of revolutionary communist? Because if you object to nonviolent center-left reform, there's really only two other positions - a right-wing fascist overthrow, or a left-wing revolutionary overthrow. (The other position is centrist status-quo.)
Left, Right and Center are 1% controlled
Submitted by Seth Spinolla on
I am not any kind of 'IST'. Least of all a Communist. Have you noted all the super-rich foundation money going to COMMUNIST groups and individuals? I am OUTSIDE the BOX. Not left-to-right (a phony paradigm implanted in peoples consciousness and boxing them in). I look at things from a WRONG and RIGHT perspective.
Without free speech no search for the truth is possible, no discovery of truth is useful. Better a thousandfold abuse of speech than denial. The abuse dies in a day, but the denial slays the life of the people, and entombs the hope of the race.
No, I haven't noticed that.
Submitted by nobody on
No, I haven't noticed that. Foundation money goes to all kinds of charities across the political spectrum, but it generally never gets to the far left (communists) or the far right (fascists and white supremacists). That money barely ever gets to even outlets like KPFK, which is very progressive.
Poor nobody doesn't get his Leftist money from the 1%
Submitted by Seth Spinolla on
Without free speech no search for the truth is possible, no discovery of truth is useful. Better a thousandfold abuse of speech than denial. The abuse dies in a day, but the denial slays the life of the people, and entombs the hope of the race.
Critique of Philanthropy/But all orgs do need money....
Submitted by Lee on
There was a workshop at O.L.A. the other day about the role of foundations. They definitely can undermine democracy, as billiionaires fund their pet causes and projects and are not really accountable to anyone. So I endorse your project of "following the money."
Yes, it's important to know where the money comes from. However, all organizations,projects and movements need to be funded, so the question is going to partly be to what extent do they let one source of funding manipulate them? One of my favorite ngos, The Center for Constitutional Rights, gets quite a bit of funding from the big foundations like Rockefeller, Ford, etc. They also are trying to raise more money from individuals, so that if they take up an issue that the foundations don't want them to, they can be independent and do it anyway.
Also, much as we want OWS to only take donations from the 99% ( or maybe even 90 or 95%? The top 5% must have a lot more than everybody else, too!), there have to be some members of the 1% who for either moral or just plain common sense reasons, want capitalism to work better for all than it is working now. I've been surprised for at least 10 years that things have been getting so crazy with the super-super-super disparity, surely it's not sustainable. Maybe like Roosevelt's wealthier supporters during the depression, they'd rather encourage nonviolent movements and major reforms, than face the possibility of cataclysmic violent ones.
I'm not pushing a particular p of v here; I think it's a very interesting question.
Leone
Politics at the top is a
Submitted by nobody on
Politics at the top is a parlor discussion between reform capitalism and mild fascism.
Joanie Bronfman, TIDES & the 1%
Submitted by Seth Spinolla on
Yes.. Joanie Bronfman is of THE Bronfman family and has the ties to Barrack Obama also through other supportive instituitions etc. that helped him be elected. She is the daughter of Gerald Bronfman, cousin to Edgar Bronfman.
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Bronfmans
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http://www.smokershistory.com/Bronfman.htm
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LMFAO!! Her PhD thesis.....
Submitted by helper on
Her PhD thesis, "The Experience of Inherited Wealth: A Social-Psychological Perspective"

GTFO!!!
TIDES and Adbuster grants
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http://www.tides.org/utility/search/?cx=003949354664956518032%3A9pat6u0jfgw&cof=FORID%3A11&ie=UTF-8&q=Adbusters&sa=Search#1088
Without free speech no search for the truth is possible, no discovery of truth is useful. Better a thousandfold abuse of speech than denial. The abuse dies in a day, but the denial slays the life of the people, and entombs the hope of the race.
Tides Foundation and Tides Center
Submitted by Seth Spinolla on
Excerpted from 57 Varieties of Radical Causes
By Ben Johnson
September 2004
The Tides Foundation is a tax-exempt charity established in 1976 by antiwar activist Drummond Pike. It distributes millions of dollars in grants every year to political organizations identified with leftwing causes. Among these are United for Peace and Justice, a group led by pro-Castro activist Leslie Cagan; the National Lawyers Guild; the Center for Constitutional Rights; and the Council for American-Islamic Relations, three of whose executives have been indicted for terrorist activities.
I'm antiwar, but I'm not a 'LeftIST' (or a RightIST) (Seth)
The Tides Foundation and its closely allied Tides Center distributed nearly $66 million in grants in 2002 alone. The Tides Center was spun off from the Foundation but is also run by Drummond Pike. The Tides Center, the Foundation,and two other entities under the Tides roof collaborate as partners. There is a technical – but insignificant – separation between the Tides Foundation and the Tides Center. From 1994 – 2004, the Heinz Endowments, which Teresa Heinz Kerry heads, have given the Tides entities $8.1 million in grants. Until February 2001, Kerry was also a trustee of the Carnegie Corporation of New York. Carnegie has given Tides numerous six-figure grants.
Interestingly, Teresa Heinz's former husband was a 'BONESMAN'. Her current husband John Kerry is a Bonesman, who ran against another Bonesman George Bush jr. in the Democrat vs. Republican race for the Presidency. Rigged game, but that's how the whole system works. (Seth)
Tides allows donors to anonymously contribute money to a variety of causes -- and thereby avoid public accountability for their donations. The donor simply makes the check out to Tides and instructs the Foundation where to forward the money. Tides does so, often keeping as much as ten percent of the total amount for “charitable advisory fees.” This allows high-profile individuals to fund extremist organizations by “laundering” their money through Tides, leaving no paper trail. Founder Drummond Pike referred to his organization as “a convenient vehicle with squeaky clean books.”
The entities the Tides Foundation has chosen to fund are overwhelmingly leftwing. The so-called “legal left” (its own referent) has been a prime beneficiary of Tides largesse. One of its principal beneficiaries, for example, is the National Lawyers Guild (NLG), which began as a Communist front organization and remains proud of its lineage. Its national convention in October 2003 featured a keynote address from Lynne Stewart, a lawyer specializing in defending terrorists who has been indicted by the Justice Department for providing “material support” to sheik Omar Abdel Rahman, whose organization, known as the Islamic Group, bombed the World Trade Center in 1993, killing six people and injuring more than a thousand.
Admittedly, the Islamic group was an FBI setup. Their informant practically arranged for the explosives etc. under orders of his bosses. It just so happened that as a former Eygptian intelligence officer, that he was smart enough to record their instructions (in what was a blatant entrapment scheme--but that's another story), so that he too wouldn't be railroaded for what wasn't suppose to happen if his bosses had not allowed it to. (Seth)
Stewart is on record supporting terrorism against defenders of “capitalism” and “racism.” “I don’t believe in anarchist violence but in directed violence,” she told the New York Times in 1995. “That would be violence directed at the institutions which perpetuate capitalism, racism, sexism, and at the people who are the appointed guardians of those institutions and accompanied by popular support.” In her National Lawyers Guild keynote address, Stewart said she and her NLG comrades were carrying on a proud tradition of their forebears, past and present:
“And modern heroes, dare I mention? Ho and Mao and Lenin, Fidel and Nelson Mandela and John Brown, Ché Guevara…Our quests like theirs are to shake the very foundations of the continents.”
More recently, the NLG has endorsed the “March 20 [2004] call to End Colonial Occupation from Iraq to Palestine & Everywhere” organized by International ANSWER (a Stalinist front group), and the NLG website has posted a legal petition for “Post-Conviction Relief” for convicted cop-killer Mumia Abu-Jamal.
This is not a bad cause for them to oppose. I oppose the wars etc. I'm just not a ideologIST, knowingly or unknowingly acting out the position of 'controlled opposition'. ) (Seth)
Along with George Soros and the Ford Foundation, Tides has also funneled tens of thousands of dollars to the Center for Constitutional Rights (CCR), an organization established by Sixties radicals William Kunstler and Arthur Kinoy. Prior to creating the Center, the two floated a plan to establish a new “Communist Party.” Not surprisingly, the old Communist Party has enjoyed a close relationship with the Center. In 1999, the party publication People’s Weekly World honored CCR Executive Director Ron Daniels alongside a member of the CPUSA national committee. Daniels, who was Deputy Campaign Manager for Jesse Jackson’s 1988 presidential run and the 1992 presidential candidate of the Peace and Freedom Party, has a longstanding cordial relationship with racist, anti-Semitic “poet laureate” Amiri Baraka.
How odd that a 'LeftIST' organisation opposed to racism should be accused of racism and 'antisemitism'. I just want you to know this article in not unbiased in it's presentation, even tho the facts on the leftIST groups' financing is factual. (Seth)
Echoing Tides’ mission statement, the Center claims it is “committed to the creative use of law as a positive force for social change.” Since 9/11, the CCR has channeled its efforts into fighting the Bush administration’s every Homeland Security measure. The Center’s lawyers opposed increasing the government’s ability to wiretap Islamists suspected of plotting terrorism and bemoaned the sequestering of terrorist detainees at Guantanamo Bay as an inexcusable form of “racial profiling.” CCR President Michael Ratner has portrayed American foreign policy as the real cause of 9/11, because it allegedly provoked the terrorists. The CCR has also defended Lynne Stewart’s “innocence” in aiding Sheikh Rahman’s Islamic Group and filed an amicus brief on her behalf.
Again, I oppose everythng the Bush-Aipac gov't did, but I am not a CommunIST or SocialIST. This was a righteous cause, but they don't really point out the real causes behind events like 911 etc. They are fake opposition ideologues witting or unwitting tools of covert financing and inducements (by agent provocateurs among their midst) (Seth)
Immediately after 9/11, Tides formed a “9/11 Fund” to advocate a “peaceful national response” to the opening salvos of war. The Foundation replaced the 9/11 Fund with the “Democratic Justice Fund,” which was established with the aid of George Soros’ Open Society Institute. (Soros, a currency speculator and drug legalization advocate, is a major contributor to Tides, having donated more than $7 million.)
Soros is of course, just one of the insider frontmen for the World Order Money-Kings. Why was a rich Jewish guy be behind 'antisemitic' Socialist/Communist groups?! (Seth)
Tides has also given grant money to the Council for American-Islamic Relations (CAIR). Ostensibly a “Muslim civil rights group,” CAIR is in fact one of the leading anti-anti-terrorism organizations in the United States. CAIR regularly opposes American efforts to fight terrorism, claiming that Homeland Security measures are responsible for an undocumented surge in “hate crimes.”
CAIR is a favorite target of the 'Anti-anti-Zionist'/Anti-anti-Israel' groups and individuals (in a fake 'us vs them' scenario). However, the aim is to make Islam feel comfortable in non-Islamic countries when supported by the World Order's LeftISTs. 'Hate-crimes' has been a favorite useful ploy to use in law and socio-politically by the World Order's LeftISTs. Some of the wealthiest among the 'rich-liberals' support the Islamic elements (fairly or unfairly targetted), while their opposites in the dialectic spit fire about Islam. Homeland Security was headed by a dual citizen American-Israeli 'Chertoff'. Creating such a Father..err Homeland Security umbrella group with such overreaching laws under the patriot act was always part of the World Order 'Americans'. I oppose it, but I am not a CommunIST or SocialIST, or any other IST. (Seth)
CAIR officials have reason to fight Bush’s anti-terrorism measures: all too many CAIR officials are on the record supporting terrorist organizations. CAIR Executive Director Nihad Awad openly stated in 1994, “I am a supporter of the Hamas movement.” Community Affairs Director Bassem K. Khafagi pleaded guilty to charges of visa and bank fraud in connection with terrorist support activities. Randall Royer, a Communications Specialist and Civil Rights Coordinator at CAIR, was arrested along with a group of Islamic radicals in Virginia for allegedly planning violent anti-American jihad.CAIR has defended terrorist “charities” shut down by the Bush administration. CAIR’s abysmal record led Senator Chuck Schumer (D-NY) to observe that its leaders have “intimate links with Hamas…we know CAIR has ties to terrorism.”
Supporting Hamas is 'terrorist' sympathising by the World Order's rightISTs, not withstanding the 'terrorism' of the U.S., NATO and Israel. I see the false dichotomies, but I am not a LeftIST, a RightIST or any IST, all of whom serve the World OrderISTS. (Seth)
Tides established an Iraq Peace Fund and a Peace Strategies Fund to finance the antiwar movement. These projects fueled MoveOn.org, the website that featured two separate commercials portraying President Bush as Adolf Hitler. The antiwar movement often boasted that MoveOn.org and the website Indymedia provided them “alternate media coverage.” Indymedia, an enormous news and events bulletin board with local pages in most of the world’s major cities, provided a vital link for radical activists, often with violent agendas, to coordinate their protests. Indymedia received $376,000 from the Tides Foundation.
Funny thing about George Bush...his grandpappy Prescott Bush along with the 'Democrat' partners in business the "Harrimans" (Bonesmen also) were involved in helping to finance the Natioal Socialists. So I should be tearful that George Bush is called a 'Hitler'! This is gamesmanship..a show on the part of the World Order's LeftISTs, because people on the 'Right' or just people have exposed this phony role of both 'LeftISTs' and 'RightISTs' of the World Order as to their roles on it's behalf. The Word Order Left and Right are not true opposites, anymore than Kerry and Bush were opposites, or Republican Prescott Bush and Democrat Averill Harriman were opposites. See the rigged game? (Seth)
Tides also runs another “alternative media source,” the Institute for Global Communications, which describes itself as “a project of the Tides Center, a 501(c)3 tax-exempt organization.” The IGC was the leading provider of web technology to the radical left during the 1990s. With Tides money, the IGC’s Canadian affiliate used an undersea cable to connect Castro’s Cuba to the Internet in 1991.
The IGC’s website links to such “recommended sites” as that of the War Resisters League, a group that focuses on non-payment of taxes as a form of protest, and the American Friends Service Committee. It also links to Ramsey Clark’s International Action Center (IAC), a front for the Workers World Party, which is a Marxist-Leninist vanguard that supports Slobodan Milosevic and North Korean strongman Kim Jong-Il. The IAC is the force behind International ANSWER, which sponsored the major antiwar (and anti-Bush) rallies in the days before Operation Iraqi Freedom.
When ANSWER was outed as a Communist organization in the fall of 2002, Tides beneficiary United for Peace and Justice was created as its “moderate” alternative. UFPJ was created in the offices of People for the American Way, an a organization also funded by Tides at its inception. UFPJ was headed by longtime Communist Party member and pro-Castro activist Leslie Cagan who maintained her membership in the Party after the fall of the Berlin Wall. UFPJ co-founder Medea Benjamin also made the pilgrimage to Castro’s island gulag, saying the contrast with her own country “made it seem like I died and went to heaven.” The Tides-funded “A Better Way Project,” has also coordinated efforts of United for Peace and Justice and the Win Without War Coalition, another radical group.
The confluence of PAW, Win Without War, George Soros and Tides is a typical example of well-financed, overlapping radical causes uniting to oppose a Republican president. Tides-funded groups have even specifically targeted the Republican National Convention in New York City for violence. Since 1999, the Tides Foundation has donated $150,000 in grants to the Ruckus Society, a violent anarchist group. Along with Medea Benjamin’s Global Exchange, Ruckus wreaked havoc on Seattle during the 1999 World Trade Organization meeting, causing thousands of dollars in property damage through “direct action.” Executive Director John Sellers defended his actions in the pages of Mother Jones, saying, “I think you can be destructive, you can use vandalism strategically.” Ruckus now teaches these techniques to other “activists.” Among the topics taught at Ruckus boot camps are “street blockades,” “police confrontation strategies” and “using the media to your advantage.” Its most recent project is protesting the Republican Party’s 2004 convention.
The Tides Center describes its political agenda in this way: “For more than twenty years, Tides Center has been working with new and emerging charitable organizations who share our mission of striving for positive social change.” (This is very similar to the Center for Constitutional Rights’ mission statement.) The Tides Foundation defines this as “strengthening…the progressive movement through innovative grantmaking.”
Teresa Heinz Kerry’s palpable support literally put Tides on the map in Pennsylvania. As part of the $8.1 million that Ms. Kerry has bequeathed to Tides over the last ten years, the combined Heinz Endowments (composed of the Howard Heinz Endowment and the Vira I. Heinz Endowment) donated $1.6 million to establish the Tides Center for Western Pennsylvania, allowing the San Francisco-based Tides Center to set up shop in Pittsburgh.
Tides employees saw this windfall “as a great opportunity to encourage a progressive social agenda,” said Jo DeBolt, director of the Tides Center of Western Pennsylvania. Although any non-profit group can apply for Tides’ services, DeBolt says, “We look at mission fit as the No. 1 cut.”
In a field with as much oversight as philanthropy, every grant is weighed with careful deliberation, every associated project plotted with exacting care. The Tides Center is dedicated to funding the political left.
ENOUGH--GET THE PICTURE OF THE PHONY OPPO-SAMES?!! (Seth)
Without free speech no search for the truth is possible, no discovery of truth is useful. Better a thousandfold abuse of speech than denial. The abuse dies in a day, but the denial slays the life of the people, and entombs the hope of the race.
This makes me like Tides a
Submitted by nobody on
This makes me like Tides a bit more. Thanks for that info.
1%'s Money Laundry for Social Engineering
Submitted by Seth Spinolla on
When is a foundation not a foundation? When it gives away other foundations’ money.
http://activistcash.com/organization_overview.cfm/o/225-tides-foundation--tides-center
Without free speech no search for the truth is possible, no discovery of truth is useful. Better a thousandfold abuse of speech than denial. The abuse dies in a day, but the denial slays the life of the people, and entombs the hope of the race.
Why do you claim to not be
Submitted by nobody on
Why do you claim to not be left or right, when you use all the rhetoric and attacks of right-wing trolls?
The only reason to worry about Communism is that the system had drifted so far toward corporatism that the Communist option looks appealing to more people than ever. More than ever, people are interested in Socialism. It looks like a reasonable way out of this mess.
The country has moved so far to the right that a lot of the center-left heroes are former Republicans. In the recent congressional race, the progressive left was supporting Bowen, a former Republican. In an upcoming senatorial race, the progressives are supporting Eliz. Warren, a former Republican. The Dems chose Jerry Brown, a relatively tight-fisted centrist. This Tides foundation board - what the heck? It's full of capitalists. It's strayed from its peace movement roots.
Capitalists, Capitalists, repeat!
Submitted by Seth Spinolla on
You just don't get it at all. Not one of those people you enlist in your post is FOR YOU! They are owned by the 1% Bankster-system and their Corporate syndicates. It doesn't matter what flavor they are. They are all owned by those who own/control the monetary system, which has enriched a selective clientele of Corporate rich with overlapping directorships in other Corporations, Banks, Foundations, Think Tanks and the revolving door in the political machinery. All you see is 'smoke and mirrors' when it comes to 'serving the people'.
If I sound so-called right, that's a mistaken impression on your part. I'm just.... right!
“There is no proletarian, not even a Communist movement, that has not operated in the interests of money, and for the time being permitted by money - and that without the idealists among its leaders having the slightest suspicion of the fact.”
“Socialism is nothing but the capitalism of the lower classes”
Without free speech no search for the truth is possible, no discovery of truth is useful. Better a thousandfold abuse of speech than denial. The abuse dies in a day, but the denial slays the life of the people, and entombs the hope of the race.
Left or Right? Either way you're getting screwed
Submitted by Mahayana on
If I sound so-called right, that's a mistaken impression on your part. I'm just.... right!
Haha, I love that! It's nice to know there's someone else out there thats not blinded by the "Left" VS "Right" bullshit. Thanks so much Seth for all the links & info. I have some reading to catch up on. :)
The legitimate object of government, is to do for a community of people, whatever they need to have done, but can not do, at all, or can not, so well do, for themselves - in their separate, and individual capacities. -Abe
THE WORLD ORDER
Submitted by Seth Spinolla on
For you 'nobody'...learn some real behind the scenes history. Not the crap the 1%'s media, Academic whores etc. tell you, but what they don't and won't ever tell you.
THE WORLD ORDER
A Study in the Hegemony of Parasitism
http://www.real-debt-elimination.com/real_freedom/The_World_Order/the_rothschilds.htm
Without free speech no search for the truth is possible, no discovery of truth is useful. Better a thousandfold abuse of speech than denial. The abuse dies in a day, but the denial slays the life of the people, and entombs the hope of the race.
Well, that site looks like
Submitted by nobody on
Well, that site looks like yet another "international Jew Bankers run the world" site, complete with the Jewish-obsessed newsfeed down the page. I think I had an argument about this with some other poster on here - and that fool got their basic facts wrong to start with. I won't bother arguing it all over again here.
Fools Aplenty
Submitted by Seth Spinolla on
Well I don't know who that fool was, but no greater a fool who ignores reality. I challenge you to name the Banksters and connect the dots yourself. Who gives a damn if they are Jewish or not. They are Bankster scum playing with the world like it was their own to do with as they please.
Gary Allen and Larry Abraham both wrote a book exposing the Bankster 'Conspiracy'. Both Jewish. Gary Allen was deceased a long time ago. Larry Abraham went on to become an Investment Banker himself. He came face-to-face with the very people he wrote about and so 15 yrs. later he wrote the sequel to that underground best-seller "Call It Conspiracy" and he didn't have to change a thing, but only additions made to confirm the original thesis.
See here for the online book: http://modernhistoryproject.org/mhp?Article=NoneDare
Without free speech no search for the truth is possible, no discovery of truth is useful. Better a thousandfold abuse of speech than denial. The abuse dies in a day, but the denial slays the life of the people, and entombs the hope of the race.
I find your rhetoric baffling
Submitted by nobody on
I find your rhetoric baffling. First, who are "those who own/control the monetary system"? The banks that can buy from the discount window at the FRB? Because they don't own these foundations. Do they share board members with these foundations and nonprofits and think tanks? Maybe they do. There must be some maps. A couple are here: http://sociology.ucsc.edu/whorulesamerica/power/corporate_community.html
Hmmm... they don't seem to be on the board of Tides.
Maybe it's one of the other big banksters. Can you name them?
Then you quote something. Where's that quote from? I don't really understand it, because i know what some of that jargon means, at least the left or marxist definitions, and the way they're used in the quote doesn't make sense.
BTW - did you know that the Activist Cash website was created by the Center for Consumer Freedom, a 1%er organization that's basically the "junk food lobby"? It's right in the About Us. The whole site is pretty much a pro-business, anti-grassroots, right-wing site. If you look at some of their allied orgs, like Center for Union Facts or Defeat the Debt, and click on "Financials" the database is empty. That's because it's big corporations funding these organizations, and Activist Cash wants to hide that information.
A similar site is http://theyrule.net/ which doesn't censor as much, and has information on a wider swath of organizations, but doesn't include Tides.
You name the banksters and connect the dots.
Submitted by Seth Spinolla on
Go for it 'nobody'. Name the Banksters who created, own and control the Federal Reserve, the Bank of England and the top 1%s. Connect the dots to the 'Right', the 'Center' and the 'Left'. Rhetoric is just a word to use when you don't agree with how the facts are presented. Really you are as ignorant and dumb as rocks. If you fear to tread on certain toes, because you might be called a name...like 'antisemitic', then how could you support a group like Adbusters, whose founder wrote an unabashed peice about 'Jews' and therefore called 'antisemitic'. It's your LEFT, your 'progressives', not mine!
Without free speech no search for the truth is possible, no discovery of truth is useful. Better a thousandfold abuse of speech than denial. The abuse dies in a day, but the denial slays the life of the people, and entombs the hope of the race.
Kalle Lasn of Adbusters--biography
Submitted by Seth Spinolla on
http://activistcash.com/biography.cfm/b/3438-kalle-lasn
Without free speech no search for the truth is possible, no discovery of truth is useful. Better a thousandfold abuse of speech than denial. The abuse dies in a day, but the denial slays the life of the people, and entombs the hope of the race.
Ahh, in light of the
Submitted by nobody on
Ahh, in light of the Rothschilds website link above, I now see how you think. Lassen was a Holocaust refugee, so probably a Jew. And I guess you think the Banksters are controlled by a secret cabal of Jews.
So that's the connection, a little sicko racist thing going on in your obsessed little mind.
How else would a neo-luddite media maker like Lassen and the Banksters have anything in common?
Racists
Submitted by Seth Spinolla on
That's a typical accusation from a LEFTIST...the same kind financed by Rothschild's and similar ilk. It's the scare-word used upon the backs of Jews to hide behind. In point of fact, many of the most prominent and greatest exposers of the 'Bankster' clique that runs the world have been JEWS, but you wouldn't know that. You are of that sheeple group who have been entrained in the Bankster 'groupthink'. That's why you are a LEFTY collectivist (as bad as the RIGHTY collectivists and whom also have been financed and led by their agent-provocateurs quite frequently).
You don't know me, so you have NO RIGHT to call me a racist. That's a typical reaction of a Leftoid Borg.
Without free speech no search for the truth is possible, no discovery of truth is useful. Better a thousandfold abuse of speech than denial. The abuse dies in a day, but the denial slays the life of the people, and entombs the hope of the race.
OCCUPY WALL STREET & THE CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION
Submitted by Seth Spinolla on
October 26, 2011
http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2011/10/26/kelleigh-nelson-lays-it-on-the-line-about-ows-the-robin-hood-tax-and-a-constitutional-convention/#more-39257
The group often credited with sparking Occupy Wall Street (OWS) is Adbusters, the Canadian anti-capitalist magazine founded in 1989 by Kalle Lasn and Bill Schmalz in Vancouver, British Columbia. This July, Lasn and Schmalz issued a call to flood lower Manhattan with 90,000 protesters. Lasn has been accused of anti-Semitism regarding some of the articles in Adbusters. [Link]
Without free speech no search for the truth is possible, no discovery of truth is useful. Better a thousandfold abuse of speech than denial. The abuse dies in a day, but the denial slays the life of the people, and entombs the hope of the race.
Intellectual Roots of Wall St. Protest Lie in Academe
Submitted by Seth Spinolla on
Movement's principles arise from scholarship on anarchy
http://chronicle.com/article/Intellectual-Roots-of-Wall/129428/
The process is what scholars of anarchism call "direct action." For example, instead of petitioning the government to build a well, members of a community might simply build it themselves. It is an example of anarchism's philosophy, or what Mr. Graeber describes as "democracy without a government."
He transplanted the lessons he learned in Madagascar to the globalism protests in the late 1990s in which he participated, and which some scholars say are the clearest antecedent, in spirit, to Occupy Wall Street.
Soon after the magazine Adbusters published an appeal to set up a "peaceful barricade" on Wall Street, Mr. Graeber spent six weeks in New York helping to plan the demonstrations before an initial march by protesters on September 17, which culminated in the occupation.
It is far from clear, of course, how attuned the protesters are to the scholarship of Mr. Graeber, other critical theorists, or academics who study anarchism.
Without free speech no search for the truth is possible, no discovery of truth is useful. Better a thousandfold abuse of speech than denial. The abuse dies in a day, but the denial slays the life of the people, and entombs the hope of the race.
MLK Jr. most well known role model for direct action in USA
Submitted by Lee on
I am not a scholar of anarchism, but I believe you are right that the phrase "direct action" comes from anarchists (of 19th century?). But the Civil Rights movement and Martin Luther King Jr. popularized nonviolent direct action and civil disobedience in the US, King explaining it in his famous "Letter from Birmingham Jail" which is available online. Of course "Civil Disobedience" comes from Henry David Thoreau's essay. Thoreau certainly has anarchist strains in his thought. King was also influenced by Gandhi(also influenced by Thoreau, who had been influenced by Eastern spiritual thinkers) and by Rev. James Lawson, who still gives workshops on nonviolent action monthly in Los Angeles. Way before the height of the Civil Rights Movement, I think Saul Alinsky was training people in labor and neighborhood organizing and methods of getting attention that are still used a lot today--eg if your community is neglected and trash not being collected, collect it and dump it on city hall steps type of thing. Although his great book "Rules for Radicals" was not published until 1971.
I really hope that nonviolent direct action can work to bring democracy and resources back to the 99%, because I think violence is horrible, and our political system IS broken. Even though there were some outbreaks of retaliation against the police attack in Oakland--which usually happens--the images of thousands of peaceful protesters, several times the original crowd attacked, returning to occupy Oakland city hall is SO moving and powerful.
Leone
Ain't it cool?
Submitted by Fex on
And ain't it cool that on the day of global protests, out of hundreds of cities, only one (Rome) was violent? And Rome has had a hell of a lot of other protesting going on not only Occupy.
That many protests at the same time being peaceful I also find moving and powerful.
"Word following word- I wrought words. Deed following deed, I wrought deeds." - The Havamal
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