And wow how many pissed off people we are! Really though while I don't blame anyone I see a lot of unnecessary discord around here. I see a lot of people that are ready to rage against the machine but not a lot of people that know how in an effective manner. I know that I can't be alone here in that I am a lover and student of history and philosophy.

I see people that are making things more difficult for themselves and others by recreating the social wheel every five posts or so by developing their own terminologies and half thought out ideas then arguing with people that use different terminologies to argue against what they misunderstood.

Because this issue of commoner vs. aristocracy (by definition left vs right wing) is nothing new it would be a good idea for those of us with the reading comprehension level high enough and level of discipline great enough to consider starting a reading list of revolutionary ethics and history.

If even some of us can get on the same page we should be able to actually make a small dent in the way things are done in this country for a little while, Maybe even more than a little.

I propose that we use this thread as a starting point to quickly and simply recommend books on history, philosophy, biographies of revolutionary thinkers that have dealt with similar problems in history.

As a format I suggest stating in the title field when composing a post what area of interest the book or text in question pertains to. Thus for example Thomas Payne’s “Common Sense” would be “historical” or “ethics on tyranny”. Ayn Rand, “Atlas Shrugged” and “The Virtue of Selfishness” could be “know thine enemy”. Gandhi's “Civil Disobedience” could be “operations manual”

If this movement is to move beyond the stage of disordered raging like the tea party hasn't then people need to get together and use reason, discipline and courage.

Take it easy and many blessings,

Rob