There was no reason for the deletion of that thread. It had opened up healthy dialogue about how to fight for a cause without the use of violence. Moderators, can you please tell me why it was deleted?
I am posting my response to Yvonne in case she didn't see it and her original post to me. There is nothing in here worthy of being CENSORED!! please leave it be.
YVONNE WROTE:Yes, it is a Revolution
Revolution does not in any sense of the word mean violence. And no one is Glorifying it but merely stating common knowledge. We are in The Revolution, THIS IS A REVOLUTION. Try moving away from your pop knowledge and get educated:
A revolution (from the Latin revolutio, "a turn around") is a fundamental change in power or organizational structures that takes place in a relatively short period of time. Aristotle described two types of political revolution:
- Complete change from one constitution to another
- Modification of an existing constitution.
Revolutions have occurred through human history and vary widely in terms of methods, duration, and motivating ideology. Their results include major changes in culture, economy, and socio-political institutions.
Scholarly debates about what does and does not constitute a revolution center around several issues. Early studies of revolutions primarily analyzed events in European history from a psychological perspective, but more modern examinations include global events and incorporate perspectives from several social sciences, including sociology and political science. Several generations of scholarly thought on revolutions have generated many competing theories and contributed much to the current understanding of this complex phenomenon.
MAHAYANA WROTE:Yes Yvonne, I know
Yes Yvonne, I know "Revolution" does not mean violence, but can you name off occurences in history where there has been a "fundamental change in power or organizational structures that takes place in a relatively short period of time" where violence was NOT involved?
The original poster is clearly advocating violence:
"Nothing will be resolved without violence. Nothing ever has, and nothing ever will."
My dear, I did not get my knowledge of Revolution via pop culture. If I remember correctly, it was you who said:
"When first hearing of Occupy Los Angeles, it occurred to me that the decades long Revolution that began in the 1960’s with Dr. King, Bob Dylan, The Last Poets, the '60's and The Summer of Love, with Jim Morrison who shouted “WAKE UP!!!”, including the many students of Jackson and Kent State, Berkley. Later, Rage Against The Machine and countless others since then until nowis this same Revolution, it hit me that, this is it. The Revolution has come to a head, Revolution is no longer a performance poet’s buzzword... but it’s become the reality we've all been waiting for, for a very long time."
It sounds like you are the one who has the pop culture take on all of this.
Every person I have come across that has fled here from other countries undergoing a revolution or Civil Wars for safety of themselves and their families, will be the first to say you do not WANT a revolution. They have seen the death and destruction that comes along with it. As I stated before, Revolutions are sometimes necessarry and worth dying for. Hopefully we are able to accomplish our goals without the death and bloodshed.