To Toke or Not to Toke, that is the question.

Yvonne de la Vega's picture

 




"Hemp is of first necessity to the wealth & protection of the country."

- Thomas Jefferson, U.S. President quote on Hemp

I love the spirits of cannabis and the multi-productive diversity of hemp, and while I have stood on a soapbox defending it's legal status, I must say i have to step up again in regard to an issue that affects many here at OLA.  I believe that the major industries of tobacco, cotton, paper, and every product that can be industrially replaced by the mass propagation of hemp and hemp cropping know quite well these statistics guarded by the lobbyists against the legalization of cannabis. In it's propaganda, the less mention of "hemp" and the more identification of it as "cannabis"/ pot, the better in regard to support.

This crop is so diverse in multi-usage that I truly believe it could save the economies of many flailing nations. It should be recognized as thus, and I should not exclude it's medicinal value in both physical and psychological administering.

But it's not legal throughout this nation. And while it's only legal in certain states, the Feds hate the idea of it, perhaps due to the reasons I listed above or you know, the pay off theories may apply, whatever. The Penal system benefits no doubt since they are privately owned and you can buy stocks in the prison system. Each "body" incarcerated equals cha-ching, so therefore we keep the silly drug laws.

Cannabis is so undervalued by this government that it leads one to consider it to be filed as one of those many issues that, if "deemed bad" by this current government, it must be something "actually good" for the people.

"Make the most you can of the Indian Hemp seed and sow it everywhere."

- George Washington, U.S. President quote on Hemp

But again, to return to the facts, it's not legal throughout this nation and unfortunately this status influences the sentiments of the majority, reflectively. There's just not much we can do in the current situation that we choose to live in as Occupiers in this movement.

I am asking my fellow lovers of the 4/20 moments to please make this issue a well thought out consideration for the sake of the success of the movement in Los Angeles. What is most important to us? We are an Occupy that is in perhaps the most blessed setting on the planet. With that in mind, we mustn't insist on more than we are given by the powers that be, like spoiled children who keep asking for more.

I wept as I watched what went down in Oakland. WE ARE SO LUCKY.

Now, the City Council is perturbed with us no doubt, but still they let us stay. They kept their word to us and with our respects we see they have taken into consideration our safety and well being. They have not ordered brutalization and incarceration as other cities' leaders have coldly done.  For this gracious act toward us they also deserve our guarding of them as City Officials. We have an obligation to protect them in return and not jeopardize our leaders reputations by letting dank smoke escape from our nomadic dwellings as visitors of all status stroll through to visit the troops camped on the lawn of our leaders offices.

Our camp is a place where all from our city comes on weekends to be with us. They bring the kids; they bring their hope and concerns for our well-being. I mean, hey sometimes Grandma comes. Some come to convince themselves we truly do exist. Soldiers gathered in the Good Fight must be visited by the elders of Revolutions from decades ago, who want to be sure what they have heard is true... we are here, we are fighting for a better quality of life and seeing it through, what they had begun, which perhaps for years had thought they had lost.

"When I was in England, I experimented with marijuana a time or two,

and I didn't like it, and I didn't inhale, and I never tried again."

- Bill Clinton, U.S. President quote on Marijuana

We are younger than most. We can handle any battle put before us. So, as a self-governing congregation, we must now train ourselves in the self-discipline it will take to not jeopardize the reason why we are here. We are here for our elders, our children and now even for our leaders whether openly expressed or not.

And again, while the majority sees it as unacceptable, and it is a sentiment we cannot change while there are so many other concerns that take precedent, we have to refrain from hurting all else by insisting against the majority that we can medicate anytime and anywhere we want.  Let's open our hearts and minds, let's work on this together, perhaps consider tinctures if it's a critical issue, ingestibles or tea time, if you must.  Let's think on this and protect our leaders and fellow freedom fighters, yeah? Let none find blame when the time comes they decide to leave not one stone unturned.

In Solidarity,

Yvonne

"When I was a kid I inhaled frequently. That was the point."

- Barack Obama quote on Marijuana

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Now I've seen everything.

Its too bad you even had to post this Yvonne. I never thought I'd see the day when pot smokers couldn't be discreet and 'cool' about smoking weed.

If some folks really need to smoke that badly, they probably don't need to be smoking in the first place.

OccupyNews.net's picture

The thing about Pot

The thing about Pot is... some who think it is an excellent product also believe it is a gateway drug to other more potent drugs. While I used to cringe at the idea of some people being high on pot and driving, it's ironic that instead some people text while driving, which is probably more dangerous.

i hear ya man.

I don't agree with the gateway drug idea however. Since its criminalized, I'd say that it leads one to make the acquaintance of 'gateway people' who are into other criminalized activity.

I was just struck by the idea that in the newly relaxed atmosphere regarding marijuana it seems stoners have forgotten how to be discreet and that society as a whole still frowns on its use. Maybe they've been smoking too much!

OccupyNews.net's picture

Very interesting explanation

so you think it's a gateway drug because it's illegal and the people selling it also have access to the heavier stuff.  Very interesting argument, I've never heard it explained that way before.

Jasen T Davis's picture

Hello! I interview people for

Hello! I interview people for Culture Magazine who often say, "I'm for marijuana but not while I am touring," or, "It's fine, but I never smoke at work," or even, "I quit because it's bad for you."

My job is to just record their honest perspective, and honesty legitimizes the issue.

I thought what you said was absolutely perfect. Smoking out 25 feet from City Hall will never postively influence public opinion.

Anyhow, good blog post!

Work Now - Party Later

Hopefully we are moving towards a time when marijuana/hemp recreational usage will be decriminalized, legalized and generally less demonized in our society; realistically, there is still resistance to that happening nationwide, though fortunately less than in the past. The demonstrators of Occupy have, for the most part, shown extraordinary responsibility and graciousness in their willingness to abide by today's laws, however misguided, to show the world they are serious about raising consciousness about their aims of economic reform. They've shown a resolve and willingness to see it through, however long it takes, accept it as a job to be done with full presence of mind, more than many others of us probably could. Hopefully others who attach themselves to the movement and participate in its activities can see fit to realize the whole world is in fact watching, and as such maintaining a responsible and present image is of consequence. Just remember: We'll have time to party and celebrate later. Thanks everyone for hanging in there, we are behind you with this moment in history you're helping happen, blessings to you all for all you do.

Make history or be history.

elevenore's picture

The point, not the joint

The issue of legalization has little to do with morality, or the social context of how usage is perceived.  It's about laws and economics.  We spend more money fighting the illegal importation of marijuana than we should, and we loose tremendous amounts of money by not regulating it, taxing it, etc.  We would not have to deal with 'gateway people' if marijuana was decriminalized and regulated.  Politically, I get that that is not going to happen nationally, which leads one to this conclusion.  On this issue, leave the states alone, Feds.  Thanks.  Oh, and if ones concern is morally inclined, or physically, or you just don't like enountering stoners, then here is what you do.  Don't smoke it.  And don't hang out with people that do.  

Mahayana's picture

Not everything on Youtube is fact.

The Declaration, the Constitution, and the Bill of Rights are currently housed in the National Archives. All three are written on parchment, not hemp paper. Parchment is treated animal skin, typically sheepskin.

The legitimate object of government, is to do for a community of people, whatever they need to have done, but can not do, at all, or can not, so well do, for themselves - in their separate, and individual capacities. -Abe

Mahayana's picture

"I figured it out. there are

"I figured it out. there are people that use my readership to get noticed themselves."

Oh, you figured me out! I soooooo want to be in the spotlight. I figured I would use your Pulitzer Prize worthy essay to do so!

Um, no. It just irks me when people post false information. Get over yourself chickie.

The legitimate object of government, is to do for a community of people, whatever they need to have done, but can not do, at all, or can not, so well do, for themselves - in their separate, and individual capacities. -Abe

This is a tiny bit silly

I've spent as much time at OLA as my work will allow and I've watched the camp change over the past few weeks.  Some of these changes have been amazing - the library is built up, classes are being held, organizers have settled into necessary routines.  The city council meeting have made an actual measurable difference.  

And then there's the not-so-great changes, primarily the change in population.  My first few days at OLA were spent talking to people like myself - middle of the road folk who were irresistibly drawn to OLA because there was finally a way to voice our outrage.  We're not activist, we're just so tired of economic injustice that we'll sleep in a goddamn tent if that is what it takes.

Those people are getting fewer and farther between.  And being replaced by people who are OK with a revolution - as long as they don't have to quit smoking pot in public on the lawn of city hall.   Really?  That's the deal breaker?  Walking one block over or going a whole day without being stoned/drunk/f'd up is more important than everything the Occupy encampments all over the world have worked for? 

it is incredibly frustrating.  There's a group of 5 people who want to join the encampment for a week.  All of them have been dropping off food & water at least once a week, even though they are broke.  Some are planning to use unpaid sick leave to do this.   How can I prepare them for the shock of realizing that OLA is turning into a big stoner party?  Will they continue to support OLA when they realize what is going on?   Maybe it's better to keep them at distance.

Hold on there.  Let's not

Hold on there.  Let's not assume that reasonable and moderate people are also politically moderate.  I'm way over on the left, a social democrat with anarchist leanings (or an anarchist with social democrat leanings), but don't smoke anything, don't drink alcohol, and try not to eat meat.  I don't have debts, own my car outright, but also don't have a mortgage (I want to buy a house).  I've owned microbusinesses, but work at a regular job now.  I'm both petit-bourgeois and working-class.  I'm not opposed to talking with the LAPD or City Council, and am actually happy that dialogue has happened.

I like the Green and P&F parties.  I don't like the LP, but do like their positions on civil liberties.   I think some Democrats are okay, and a few are really interesting despite being less than perfect.  I often feel sorry for liberal and moderate Republicans these days.

I support the erosion of capitalism, particularly the break-up of large banks and transnational corporations, world wide.  I support the creation of more socialism - like expanded public education, a right to housing, and a right to food.  Let's erode the marketplace.  If Coca Cola, McDonalds, Disney, Monsanto, and InBev were destroyed, I'd be happy.  I don't support strong intellectual property rights for pharma or software, and oppose harsh laws against copyright violations.  These are considered extremist positions by the mainstream parties.

I fully support the development of Medicare for All, which is a reformist position.  I support unions.  I support public employees.  I support the eradication of homelessness by giving them homes.

Please, don't equate political extremism with being a party animal.

That's great!

Yvonne, thank you so much for taking the time to fill me in.

In this economy people need to be protective of their jobs, no matter how cruddy they are.  Trying to find a way to get all of us down there at the same time has been tricky.  In the meantime, we help as we can and we want to do more. 

If you're living at OLA, you might not realize just how many people are with you in spirit.  There is no other way to fight the plutocracy.   Voting, writing to a congressman, signing petitions, all the usual outlets - we've done all that.  It didn't work.  The OWS movement is all we have.   At the beginning we were terrified that the hijackers would be the corporate-backed DNC.  The idea that it would be selfish individuals who were willing to put all their fellow occupiers at risk so that they could party was pretty unbearable.  

We all know it wont be perfect.  The 99% simply isn't.  Nobody is asking for that.  Toned down is good enough.  We'll see you on the 5th, right after I finish telling Chase to close my account. 

Stay strong, stay peaceful, stay united.

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